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CBS Watch: Authenticity and Appendix 4 [no more last, desperate straw-grasping that docs authentic]
michellemalkin.com ^ | Jan 10, 2005 | Michelle Malkin

Posted on 01/10/2005 11:43:26 AM PST by Mike Fieschko

Bloggers are taking note that the Thornburgh/Boccardi report on CBS does not seem to take a position on the authenticity of the Killian documents. On p. 14 on the report, the authors note:

The Panel has not been able to conclude with absolute certainty whether the Killian documents are authentic or forgeries.

This shouldn't be interpreted as a cop-out, I think. Barring an admission from the forger, it's difficult to prove document forgery with "absolute" certainty. But Appendix 4--which is not included on CBS's website, but on Dick Thornburgh's law firm website--seems to speak loud and clear on this. Here's the intro:

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The following is a summary of the information provided to the Panel by Peter Tytell relating to the typestyle of the four documents aired on the September 8 Segment (the "Killian documents") and the typestyle of the previously released Texas Air National Guard ("TexANG") document containing a superscript "th" that was featured on the September 10 CBS Evening News (the "Superscript Exemplar") .'

Tytell concluded, for the reasons described below, that (i) the relevant portion of the Superscript Exemplar was produced on an Olympia manual typewriter, (ii) the Killian documents were not produced on an Olympia manual typewriter, and (iii) the Killian documents were produced on a computer in Times New Roman typestyle . Tytell acknowledged that deterioration in the Killian documents from the copying and downloading process made the comparison of typestyles "to some extent a subjective call." However, he believed the differences were sufficiently significant to conclude that the Killian documents were not produced on a typewriter in the early 1970s and therefore were not authentic...

The Killian Documents Were Likely Produced On A Computer

Tytell concluded that the Killian documents were produced in a typestyle that closely resembles Times New Roman, a typestyle that he explained was not available on standard typewriters in the early 1970s.6 Tytell explained to the Panel that although the typestyle of the Killian documents has certain similarities with the "Press Roman" typestyle on the IBM Selectric Composer typewriter that was available in the early 1970s, there are enough significant differences in his opinion to conclude that the Killian documents were not produced by an IBM Selectric Composer. The basis for his conclusion is summarized below.

According to Tytell, the Killian documents are proportionally spaced and therefore could not have been produced by monospaced typewriters, which constituted a substantial majority of the typewriters available in the early 1970s.

In addition, Tytell explained that the Killian documents are produced in serif typestyle (i.e., "with feet"). This is visible, for example, on the capital "M" from the May 4, 1972 Killian document. Therefore, he was able to eliminate all "sans-serif" proportional typestyles . Tytell also reviewed the June 2004 version ofthe Haas Atlas, which he described as a compendium of available typewriter typestyles that he considers a key resource in examining typography issues. Tytell told the Panel that he reviewed the proportionally spaced, serif typestyles in the Haas Atlas and did not find a single match with the Killian documents...'

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For most bloggers, Tytell's analysis is old hat, deja vu all over again. But the appendix is worth reading all the way through. This should put to rest any last desperate straw-grasping from some fringe quarters that the documents were authentic.



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1 posted on 01/10/2005 11:43:26 AM PST by Mike Fieschko
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Anyone having trouble with 'Search' today?

I did a quick and an archive search on 'CBS' (without the quotes) and got zero hits.
2 posted on 01/10/2005 11:46:12 AM PST by Mike Fieschko (Two neutrinos go through a bar ...)
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To: Mike Fieschko

3 posted on 01/10/2005 11:50:45 AM PST by IncPen (Beware the fury of a patient man.)
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To: Mike Fieschko
"This should put to rest any last desperate straw-grasping from some fringe quarters that the documents were authentic."

But it won't.

4 posted on 01/10/2005 11:51:25 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: Bahbah

Something went backwards. CBS had a responsibility to prove that the documents were authentic. Failing the ability to prove that the documents are authentic, the assumption should be that they were false.


5 posted on 01/10/2005 11:54:58 AM PST by garyb
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To: garyb
"the assumption should be that they were false."

LOL. The tounge twisting going on at CBS is hilarious. They cannot prove they are not authentic! Sure they can. They've been conclusively proven to be fakes. They also couldn't determine that there was any political motivation.

6 posted on 01/10/2005 11:59:25 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: Mike Fieschko
Gasp! It's fake?!?! What a whitewash this whole thing has been. Kerry campaign staff and SeeBS colluded to derail Bush's re-election bid. My theory of what happened: Kerry staffers, along with SeeBS producers met to determine what they could do to get Kerry elected. it was determined that Kerry was being drawn and quartered by the Swift Vets, and there was no defense. They decided that the only way to combat Kerry's military 'problem' was to make it so Bush had one of his own. They decided that Bush must have gotten special attention, that he must have been absent from active duty, etc. Of course they could find no proof of this, so they had to make it up. Enter Burkett. He was probably known by SeeBS staffers to be both unstable, and have an axe to grind with Bush. He would make the perfect 'source' to present the faked memo's. He was probably presented with them from someone who was unknown to him, but this person probably proclaimed to be a relative of the dead commander of Bush's ANG unit, and stroked Burkett's ego, and then claimed that he wanted nothing to do with it, but hey, here's some memo's I found in my 'relative's' effects. Burkett then goes ballistic, thinking he has the smoking gun he needs to get Bush once and for all. Predictably, he calls SeeBS prodcers (who I am sure he had previous contact with, and knew to be as ardently anti-Bush as himself) to present these 'blockbuster' documents to them. We all know the rest of the story, but I think SeeBS and Kerry staffers instigated the entire thing. This was much more than a lack of journalistic integrity, and if this was truly investigated, I guarantee you that Mapes and Rather as well as some Kerry staffers would be found to have been chin deep in this thing from the start.
7 posted on 01/10/2005 12:08:31 PM PST by Space Wrangler
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To: Mike Fieschko

8 posted on 01/10/2005 12:09:48 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: garyb
>>>Failing the ability to prove that the documents are authentic, the assumption should be that they were false. <<<

You got it wrong - at least in the democrat/leftist mind.

Remember that the position... "we must investigate President Reagan over Iran-contra because the allegations are so serious"! There was no evidence - just allegations.

So it is entirely in keeping with Demo/Left phylosophy that documents, because they exist, must be assumed to be authentic! Particularly since they were found(read created) by them.

9 posted on 01/10/2005 12:10:57 PM PST by HardStarboard (PASS)
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To: Mike Fieschko

The title search only works on four letters or more for a word or phrase.


11 posted on 01/10/2005 12:20:47 PM PST by kristinn
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To: kristinn

Thanks. Is that a new limitation? I don't remember seeing the three character limit before.


12 posted on 01/10/2005 12:31:22 PM PST by Mike Fieschko (Two neutrinos go through a bar ...)
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To: kristinn
The title search only works on four letters or more for a word or phrase.

Which is really annoying when you come across a headline with no words longer than three letters.

13 posted on 01/10/2005 12:32:16 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead

That's really rich.


14 posted on 01/10/2005 12:32:23 PM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: Mike Fieschko

How the HECK can anyone authenticate COPIES?


15 posted on 01/10/2005 12:33:19 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: Mike Fieschko

Dan Rather didn't care if they were authentic or not, they hurt Bush, that was enough. Liberal blind bias!


16 posted on 01/10/2005 12:34:48 PM PST by metacognative (expecting exculpation?!)
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To: Mike Fieschko; dead
Yes.

Headlines like The Big Dig Fib are lost forever.

17 posted on 01/10/2005 12:37:09 PM PST by kristinn
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To: Mike Fieschko

Does it address the question: where are the originals?

Just one original impact-printed memo page would decisively terminate the forgery accusation. Funny, after how many months of investigation, four firings, and endless "but they're real!" claims, nobody claims to have seen the originals...


18 posted on 01/10/2005 12:40:06 PM PST by ctdonath2
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