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To: ImphClinton
"The Crusaders proved once and for all the fallacy of the Catholic Religion. It is not the church Christ created. That church died with John."

That which is in bold is true but "The Church" is alive in all believers. The failure of the Reformation is that it recognized a Roman church that was hijacked into paganisn by pope Damasis in 378A.D. but that it did not reconnect the branch to its roots in Jewishness and the hope of Israel;

But the brothers Judah and Ephraim are beginning to recognize each other and will once again worship the true God in His way. Today I pray for the peace of Israel. Shalom

53 posted on 01/10/2005 1:39:27 PM PST by patriot_wes
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To: patriot_wes

Thread drift! Thread drift!

"The failure of the Reformation is that it recognized a Roman church that was hijacked into paganisn by pope Damasis in 378A.D"

Brother yo are reading the wrong history books!

Uh, it is Pope Damasus who, um, well gave his opinion about which books should be in the New Testament of your Holy Bible, and later after the Church councils of Hippo (393), and Carthage (397) the Church (the bishops in UNION with a later Pope) ratified those SAME 27 books which Damasus gave as being the Holy inspired Word of God! (imagine that)

Search on Pope St. Damasus: "Pope Damasus was well versed in the sacred scriptures. The great scripture scholar St. Jerome, who was for a time the pope's secretary, bears witness to this. It was St. Damasus who commissioned Jerome to revise the then-current Latin text of the Bible. Before the pope died, St. Jerome was able to put into his hands the corrected New Testament. This became part of the "Vulgate" Bible that remained the official Latin Catholic version of the Church until recently."

Link: http://www.stthomasirondequoit.com/SaintsAlive/id244.htm

From New Advent: 2. The Roman Church, the Synod under Damasus, and St. Jerome

The Muratorian Canon or Fragment, composed in the Roman Church in the last quarter of the second century, is silent about Hebrews, James, II Peter; I Peter, indeed, is not mentioned, but must have been omitted by an oversight, since it was universally received at the time. There is evidence that this restricted Canon obtained not only in the African Church, with slight modifications, as we have seen, but also at Rome and in the West generally until the close of the fourth century. The same ancient authority witnesses to the very favourable and perhaps canonical standing enjoyed at Rome by the Apocalypse of Peter and the Shepherd of Hermas. In the middle decades of the fourth century the increased intercourse and exchange of views between the Orient and the Occident led to a better mutual acquaintance regarding Biblical canons and the correction of the catalogue of the Latin Church. It is a singular fact that while the East, mainly through St. Jerome's pen, exerted a disturbing and negative influence on Western opinion regarding the Old Testament, the same influence, through probably the same chief intermediary, made for the completeness and integrity of the New Testament Canon. The West began to realize that the ancient Apostolic Churches of Jerusalem and Antioch, indeed the whole Orient, for more than two centuries had acknowledged Hebrews and James as inspired writings of Apostles, while the venerable Alexandrian Church, supported by the prestige of Athanasius, and the powerful Patriarchate of Constantinople, with the scholarship of Eusebius behind its judgment, had canonized all the disputed Epistles. St. Jerome, a rising light in the Church, though but a simple priest, was summoned by Pope Damasus from the East, where he was pursuing sacred lore, to assist at an eclectic, but not ecumenical, synod at Rome in the year 382. Neither the general council at Constantinople of the preceding year nor that of Nice (365) had considered the question of the Canon. This Roman synod must have devoted itself specially to the matter. The result of its deliberations, presided over, no doubt, by the energetic Damasus himself, has been preserved in the document called "Decretum Gelasii de recipiendis et non recipiendis libris", a compilation partly of the sixth century, but containing much material dating from the two preceding ones. The Damasan catalogue presents the complete and perfect Canon which has been that of the Church Universal ever since.

Link: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03274a.htm

So THANK Pope Damasus pw! He gave you the New Testament portion of your Bible with gyuidance of the Holy Spirit!


59 posted on 01/10/2005 1:56:36 PM PST by undirish01 (Go Irish! If only we can get the theology dept. turned around.)
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