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Why Europe chooses extinction. Demographics is destiny. (Aprol 2003)
asia times ^ | Apr 8, 2003 | Spengler

Posted on 01/11/2005 3:07:47 PM PST by dennisw

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1 posted on 01/11/2005 3:07:47 PM PST by dennisw
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Stop, but I thought WE were overpopulating the world! It's gonna fill up!


2 posted on 01/11/2005 3:11:03 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (“"Hi, I'm Richard Gere and I'm speaking for the entire world.” -Richard Gere)
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In 200 years, French and German will be spoken exclusively in hell.

I had to check your link to make sure this was in the original article.

C'mon. There's got to be some good Christians from France or Germany. I may have to go back a few centuries, but Martin Luther comes to mind.

3 posted on 01/11/2005 3:11:15 PM PST by SolidSupplySide
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Europe is literally dying off, and the population rendered sterile by socialist ideology. The profound psychological illness of liberalism will kill more people ultimately than the Black Plague. The empty streets of Western Europe are being repopulated by North African muslims.


4 posted on 01/11/2005 3:11:36 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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"Have the Europeans taken to heart existentialism's complaint that man is alone in a chaotic universe in which life has no ultimate meaning, and that man responds to the anxiety about death by embracing death?"

Soren Kirkagaard strikes again...

Oh, the fear and trembling! The sickness unto death!

Personally, I think there's a difference between self-preservation and self-absorbtion, but Euroweenies don't: their heads are so far up their butts, they have to cough to see sunlight.


5 posted on 01/11/2005 3:14:16 PM PST by Conservative Canuck (The Voice of One Crying in the Wilderness)
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I wonder which countries have legalized abortion in Europe?


6 posted on 01/11/2005 3:15:10 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (“"Hi, I'm Richard Gere and I'm speaking for the entire world.” -Richard Gere)
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In the next 50 years, Europe's population will relive - in slow motion - that plague demography, losing about a fifth of its population by 2050 and more as the decades roll on."

Pretty static thinking. Would someone in 1950 have suspected that our increasing affluence would result in us having smaller families? That certainly wasn't the paradigm back in FDR's day...

7 posted on 01/11/2005 3:16:55 PM PST by atomicpossum (I am the Cat that walks by himself, and all places are alike to me.)
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This guy knows nothing about the 30 years war except modernist revisionism and very little about Christianity.


8 posted on 01/11/2005 3:17:17 PM PST by kjvail (Judica me Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta)
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They have legalised everything in Europe.


9 posted on 01/11/2005 3:17:39 PM PST by Conservative Canuck (The Voice of One Crying in the Wilderness)
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To: dennisw; gobucks

FYI ping


10 posted on 01/11/2005 3:19:09 PM PST by redgolum
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I can agree with the first points, but after that the article kind of goes haywire.


11 posted on 01/11/2005 3:20:02 PM PST by vpintheak (Liberal = The antithesis of Freedom and Patriotism)
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ping


12 posted on 01/11/2005 3:23:07 PM PST by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us)
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Very nice article, but totally over the top. It doesn't take a PhD to figure out why Europe is depopulating. The answer isn't extistenialism, it's materialism. Europeans care about their careers and standards of living. This means fewer children. Americans and Israeli care about family and God.

It's actually rather interesting the author focuses so much on Jews. In the US, Jews --like Eurotrash -- are massively depopulating themselves through low birthrates and intermarriage. In Israel, however, Jews reproduce at a very high rate (albeit not as high as the Arabs).

13 posted on 01/11/2005 3:24:13 PM PST by ChicagoHebrew (Hell exists, it is real. It's a quiet green meadow populated entirely by Arab goat herders.)
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I only wish there was a hell for Martin Luther to burn in.


14 posted on 01/11/2005 3:25:38 PM PST by ChicagoHebrew (Hell exists, it is real. It's a quiet green meadow populated entirely by Arab goat herders.)
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No kidding. My husband and I have had more kids than we would if we were making less.

Doesn't make much sense, does it? As a generalization, at least.


15 posted on 01/11/2005 3:26:04 PM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
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To: dennisw

This is a no brainer. Nihilism, secularization and a general replacement of the family by the nanny state has caused the drop off in birthrates in Europe. The corrective action is to replace nihilism with real belief systems, replace secularization with Judeo-Christian spirituality and the nanny state with the family. The solution is simple, but there is no will to do it. Therefore, the suicidal tendency continues. Of course, a miracle is still possible if not even probable.


17 posted on 01/11/2005 3:36:36 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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They have no ambition but to die quietly, no concerns except for those amusements which might reduce boredom and anxiety en route to the grave.

The Muslim hordes will shatter these illusions of peace and tranquility in short order.

18 posted on 01/11/2005 3:43:47 PM PST by Gritty ("comparing Jesusland with present-tense Eutopia, it is obvious which is more out of whack-Mark Steyn)
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What really happened to Europe was that a nationalist Darwinism failed with the Nazis and all they were left with was new left self-hatred and malthusianist environmentalism which led them to believe that reproducing was a sin.


19 posted on 01/11/2005 3:51:07 PM PST by Odyssey-x
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Thanks for posting this article. It is like watching a future episode of Eugene Weber's excellent 52 part series on the history of western civilization.


20 posted on 01/11/2005 3:54:26 PM PST by Odyssey-x
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