Rachel the Barbarian
Ruckelshaus
Posted on 01/11/2005 7:08:28 PM PST by blam
OR, at the Hormel factory up in Wisconsin (?)
Here is just one book:
They all intermarried...long ago.
They haven't a leg to stand on. This is just silly!
I am a direct descendant of "Muttly the Hun-gry," and I demand a generous selection of special privileges and subsidies too.
Don't make me mad. We direct descendants are not to be trifled with. My ancestor peed in Charlemagne's pointy shoes.
(a little extra kibble would be nice...and would it kill you to lie a little, and say "Good Boy" once in a while?)
The problem with the Every European is Descended From Charlemagne quote is that its reasoning is derived from numbers of hypothetical ancestors giving undeserved weight to assumed randomness without giving due credit to inbreeding.
Royal inbreeding is well known. I can't remember which exact Hapsburg it was, but I recall reading that while, theorectically, one can have 64 different great-great-great-great-grandparents, this particular Hapsburg only had 16 or so.
In small villages, where most of the European population lived, poor transportation and local geography would result in a great degree of local inbreeding with the same families marrying each other for centuries.
Weren't the Huns redheads?
A small point, but the Hunnic language was one of original Altaic languages and as such it's remnants are still extant in such languages as Turkish, Azeri, Kazak, Kirghiz, Uzbec, Korean and Japanese.
Legend has it that the Huns were a ravenous people with a particular taste for pastry, and that certain baked goods in Eastern Europe were originally developed to pacify the Hot Cross Huns.
BINGO! Yes, the redheaded Huns were among the most aggressive and successful of this group. Their legend lived on well into the 1980's in the person of Matilda the Hun, longtime champion of the Gorgeous Ladies Of Wrestling.
One theory concerning the elite class spreading their genes around has it that the elite men, plus their soldiers, felt free to breed with whatever women took their fancy, in whatever village they happened to find themselves in.
Thus, those small, remote villages might retain the heritage from a visit by a young Charlemagne for generations, until some descendant passes it on to the next village, or the next country, if said descendant became a soldier.
Rachel the Barbarian
Ruckelshaus
See:
http://members.tripod.com/~Yukon_2/language2.html
Where Hunnish fits in here, I don't think they know. I don't believe any Hunnish words remain for linguistic study.
It might have been a linguistic isolate or even related to Scythian.
I have to remember that joke about the buns. Really great!
Dundalk.
On the other hand, in the good old days, the male royals usually had many bastard children.
My family crest bears the bar sinister of bastardy.
No surprise there to those who know me!
Which reminds me:
What do Attila the Hun, Billy the Kid, and Winnie the Pooh have in common?
Are you ready for this?
They all have the same middle name!
Good Boy, Muttly!
Dunno. I've got just a trace of the eye fold handed down from (at least) one of my German ancestral lines, and the red hair also comes from my mom's side, so, maybe...
Perhaps I'm descended from Attila and Boudicca. ;')
Oh my Goth!
Attila
King of the Huns:
The Man and the Myth
by Patrick Howarth
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