[Dane]

My own theory is that it's a Rich Guy's Servant Guilt. GW has probably had Mexican servants wiping his nose when he grew up. I see it among the golf set--they love to have cheap servants, but feel guilty about making someone else clean their toilets and generally act the slave, so their answer is to try to force everyone to Say It's OK

Whew, cue twilight zone music.

BTW, when are you going to apply for a dishwashing job at a restaurant or housekeeper at a hotel.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

I hear the twilight zone music whenever I see you post.

[Mamzelle]

Tingle to your own jingle. In my neck of the woods (which has an unemployment rate of 9%) the illegals do the landscaping and carpentry as well as House Slave for the Lady. Wages for construction jobs have taken a dive, and the employers prefer the illegals because the illegals are scared of exposure and are properly grovelling to da Kind Massa Padron. Once they have amnesy, the present illegals will lose these jobs to the illegals who come after, because the chief attraction of these workers is the very fact that they're illegal.

I'd like to see these employers in jail.

I'd like to see a legal theory developed to sue these employers for civil rights discrimination (discrimination against those of certain nat'l origins--like US citizens).

I'd like to see these employers in bright orange suits (and their damned lazy wives, too) picking up trash along the Blue Ridge Parkway.

As for my own work history, if it's any of your stupid business, I've done my share of LEGAL menial labor just exactly as you described.

Mow your own lawn. And tell your shiftless wife to scrub her own toilet.

[waverna]

Right, leave those jobs to the sub-humans.

[carenot]

BTW, when are you going to apply for a dishwashing job at a restaurant or housekeeper at a hotel.

I have had both of those jobs, Dane.

[JustAnotherSavage]

"My own theory is that it's a Rich Guy's Servant Guilt. GW has probably had Mexican servants wiping his nose when he grew up. I see it among the golf set--they love to have cheap servants, but feel guilty about making someone else clean their toilets and generally act the slave, so their answer is to try to force everyone to Say It's OK"

Don't let anyone here tell you that you're wrong Mamzelle, because you are right. This is about you and I being expendable if it profits a FROBL. These are the same ghosts from our past that ran the Indian from his land for "progress" and enslaved Africans in the name of commerce. They don't respect labor and sweat and can't understand how many of us cherish, as did our ancestors working with our hands. And yet they will tell you that you are "racist" when they want you to give what you have to subsidize their economic venture. They are the scum that cause war and poverty for a dose of power and are more than happy to use the Mexican people or anybody as trade chattel.

[Lurker]

I've washed dishes, and I've cleaned toilets. I've also mowed lawns.

Your argument is a typical straw man.

If we remove the low cost illegal labor, the wages of those jobs will rise until American decide they want to do them. Why are you defending people from other nations thumbing their noses at our laws?

What are you, some kind of Libertarian?

L