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Surgery waiting list 'inflated' (Why can't we have a medical system like Canada's?)
Vancouver Sun ^ | January 12, 2005 | Pamela Fayerman

Posted on 01/12/2005 4:02:30 PM PST by ColoCdn

"The provincial surgery waiting list website is inaccurate and its numbers inflated because it includes patients who died before surgery and others who are counted more than once.

The list is supposed to help patients estimate how long they must wait for surgical procedures, but the B.C. government now says the system, created in 1999, has never worked.

The list currently shows a record 80,710 people waiting for operations..."

(Excerpt) Read more at canada.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: governmenthospitals; healthcare; hospitals; socializedmedicine; surgery; waitlists
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"...patients who died before surgery..." Can you guess why? This is so pathetic. When I left Canada years ago, the health system was only then just beginning to degenerate. It's taken some time, but look at the depths to which it's sunk now!
1 posted on 01/12/2005 4:02:31 PM PST by ColoCdn
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But think how much money they are saving on surgery. It is much cheaper to have funerals instead.

Once the state is responsible for the cost of medical care, the state is going to want you dead.


2 posted on 01/12/2005 4:05:57 PM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: ColoCdn

Yes! There is such a long wait, that patients die before the get the medical care they need.


3 posted on 01/12/2005 4:06:29 PM PST by punster
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To: ColoCdn

I still remember part of an episode of michael 'fatty' moore's short lived TV show where he showed just how wonderful the canadian health care system was. IIRC Bob costas narrated it along with another sportscaster like they were doing play by play and in awe over how smoothly everything went.

That's when I lost whatever respect I had for bob costas. He can smoke a turd in hell for helping push a health care system that doesn't work.


4 posted on 01/12/2005 4:08:15 PM PST by flashbunny (Every thought that enters my head requires its own vanity thread.)
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To: ColoCdn
"Marxism will work. I just know it will. If we just keep trying, it's just gotta."
~Bird-brained Leftist Morons of the World~

5 posted on 01/12/2005 4:11:16 PM PST by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated--thanks to President George W. Bush!)
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To: ColoCdn

From the article(page 2)

"...but he has more than 1,000 patients seeking consultations and some of those will have to wait up to two years for an appointment...."


6 posted on 01/12/2005 4:15:58 PM PST by Ellesu
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To: Savage Beast

And don't forget all those who waited sooooo long as to be now toooooo old to have the surgury.


7 posted on 01/12/2005 4:16:30 PM PST by spokeshave (Strategery + Schardenfreude = Stratenschardenfreudery)
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To: Ellesu

Unbelievable, isn't it?

My elderly dad waited over TWO YEARS for a basic surgical procedure to relieve back pain that he had experienced for decades.


8 posted on 01/12/2005 4:18:09 PM PST by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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...patients who died before surgery and others who are counted more than once.

This version explains Democrat votes.

9 posted on 01/12/2005 4:20:24 PM PST by fuquadukie (If you can't hang with the big dogs, then don't jump off the porch.)
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To: fuquadukie

I didn't make the connection, but B.C. borders Washington state.

It makes sense now! Gregoire must be a supporter of any system that allows her the opportunity to gain more (dead) voters! But, importing them from British Columbia is just wrong!


10 posted on 01/12/2005 4:22:40 PM PST by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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>>> The facts about Canada's "free" health care system
CANADA'S SOCIALIZED HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IN CRISIS, EXACTLY AS PREDICTED
Canada Tramples Individual Rights and Makes STATISM!its Official Political System by Outlawing Private Medical Care (!)!HERE
(Don't mess with us, Sen. Bill Nelson; we're watching you...)

11 posted on 01/12/2005 4:22:40 PM PST by FreeKeys ("If a gov't were put in charge of the Sahara, in 5 years: a shortage of sand." -- Milton Friedman)
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THIS IS A BIT GRAPHIC. IF YOU ARE BOTHERED BY SICK STORIES, DON'T READ THIS. JUST MEDICAL, NOTHING WORSE

I happened upon a Lumberjack Competition program on OLN a few weeks back, and at the tail-end some dude was on there after the awards. He said, in essence, that a while back he slipped with the axe and cut off a toe. The guy saved it and went to the hospital to get it reattached. The officials told him in essence that it was not a major problem to lose a toe and would therefore not attach it again for him. Can you imagine a doctor here saying that, to a competition athlete no less?

Coming to a country near you if you vote Deomcrat....


12 posted on 01/12/2005 4:22:51 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy ("Be ever vigilant, for you know not when the master is coming")
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That is, of course, Democrat, friends. One day, I promise I will learn how to type for y'all.


13 posted on 01/12/2005 4:24:03 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy ("Be ever vigilant, for you know not when the master is coming")
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And this is just the Province of British Columbia!

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14 posted on 01/12/2005 4:24:06 PM PST by Seeking the truth (0cents.com - 18k gold Pajama Patrol Badges coming soon!)
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To: BradyLS; dAnconia; GOP Jedi; ThinkDifferent; PGalt; FlashBack; RobFromGa; numberonepal; ...

socialized medicine ping


15 posted on 01/12/2005 4:25:08 PM PST by FreeKeys (13 healthcare myths: http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=12346)
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To: ColoCdn

If you love waiting in line for less than urgent treatment, you'll love Canada's health care system!


16 posted on 01/12/2005 4:25:24 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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We already have a Canada-like system, if you're in managed care. It can take months to see a specialist.


17 posted on 01/12/2005 4:25:35 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: Savage Beast


Add to that, "It will take just a bit more government regulation and a little less individual freedom, but it will work."


18 posted on 01/12/2005 4:25:41 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (I'm fresh out of tags. I'll pick some up tomorrow.)
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inaccurate and its numbers inflated because it includes patients who died before surgery

Ooooookay.

19 posted on 01/12/2005 4:27:12 PM PST by Tribune7
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It's not that the hospitals don't have beds available. There are whole wings not being utilized. But the governments have screwed everything up so badly that they don't have nurses, doctors, or technicians to staff the hospitals like they did in the 60's and 70's.

And, many times, you'll hear stories of people going to the hospital just to lie in their gurney-bed in the hallway for sometimes up to a day or more.

It's unbelievable I tell you.


20 posted on 01/12/2005 4:27:15 PM PST by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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