To: Grzegorz 246
It also reminds me theories spread by Putinists, who claim that Ukrainians are in fact Russians. I am not sure what the actual Putinists claim. My take is that Ukraine, Russia and Byelorus are in process od divergence (which maybe can be reversed to some degree) from the origial ethno/cultural unit called Rus. Rus, started in the north as Germanic tribe of Swedish Vikings organized Slavic and Finnish tribes into one society, first in the center in Novgorod then in Kiev. Then the east was conquered by Mongols/Tartars and west was conquered by Lithuanians/Poles. Later Moscow became the center of revival.
Galichan theory was fabricated in XIXc Lvov and denied Russian claim to be the continuation of Rus, at the same time Galichans framed the history of Ukraine as victim of Russian invasion. In such view the actual history of Rus from IXc to XVIIc is losing any sense. It is very sad to base one's national identity on a lie.
153 posted on
01/16/2005 10:42:25 AM PST by
A. Pole
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To: A. Pole
"My take is that Ukraine, Russia and Byelorus are in process od divergence (which maybe can be reversed to some degree) from the origial ethno/cultural unit called Rus."
Russian, Ukrainian and Belorussian people are eastern Slavs, just like Poles, Czechs and Slovaks are western Slavs and the fact that hundreds years ago the first group was a part of one territorial unit doesn't prove that there is some special connection between them.
Didn't you and other fans of Putin claim a while ago that Ukrainian language is a mix of Polish & Russian and that Ukrainian nation doesn't really exist, but was invented by Germans ?
To: A. Pole; Grzegorz 246
With Chechens is even more funny, they absolutely arent Russians only their land and all natural resources are ethnic Russian.
157 posted on
01/16/2005 11:27:04 AM PST by
Lukasz
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