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High court justices debate foreign rulings [Scalia v Breyer]
Washington Times ^ | Jan 14 2004

Posted on 01/14/2005 10:59:40 AM PST by george wythe

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To: george wythe
"You can learn something" from foreign countries, adding that it is a matter of "opening your eyes to things that are going on elsewhere."

Outrageous, and grounds for impeachment and removal. If we learn something from others--which is probably true--then let the legislators pass the laws with the consent of the governed. Impeachment. Now.

41 posted on 01/16/2005 9:08:02 AM PST by jammer
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To: Ravenstar

You are correct. I didn't read yours before I went off, angrily, and wrote the reply immediately after yours. It's time to get started.


42 posted on 01/16/2005 9:09:17 AM PST by jammer
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To: davidosborne
The title of this thread should be "Scalia bitch slaps Breyer."
43 posted on 01/16/2005 11:12:00 AM PST by I got the rope
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To: little jeremiah

Not sure who is running the ping list, but this is an important one. Look at davidosbournes realplayer stream from cspan.

The Lawrence case is mentioned by Scalia.

Bookingmarking this thread. Someone should save this debate somehow for future reference.


44 posted on 01/16/2005 12:10:53 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: george wythe

I particular like this liberal professor from the American Universiy Washington College of Law. Scalia skewered him.

Check out his work. LOL.

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45 posted on 01/16/2005 12:35:48 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: I got the rope
I particular like this liberal professor from the American Universiy Washington College of Law. Scalia skewered him.

LOL! That was something to watch. The liberal professor was so wrong that even Breyer chewed him out.

Sometimes liberal professors get in row making up facts, surround themselves with equally-deluded professors, and get in trouble with that cruel thing called reality.

I had one of those deluded liberal professors in college, not just plain good ol' liberal. The guy was so wacked out that he would even contradicted the dictionary when attacking "evil" conservative and libertarian ideas.

46 posted on 01/17/2005 12:35:19 PM PST by george wythe
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To: Ravenstar
I know that this is probably going to get me flamed but the 6 Supreme Court justices that made the Lawrence vs. Texas decision citing European Law, not the historical type i.e. Magna Carta etc., are subject to impeachment

That citation was the most surprising item in the majority opinion. I thought that Lawrence was going to be decided on narrow grounds, such as a new interpretation of the Equal Protection Clause.

As Scalia noted, consulting historical British law in order to understand the legal framework that gave birth to our Constitution is one thing. Citing a modern Zimbabwean judge that happens to agree with a liberal opinion that ignores and contradicts over 200 years of American jurisprudence is just plain silly.

47 posted on 01/17/2005 12:42:09 PM PST by george wythe
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To: george wythe

No it is not just plain silly it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL and IMPEACHABLE but the Republicans have no spine! Don't get me wrong neither do the Demorats or more accurately they WANT to undermine the Constitution. The Republicans are letting it happen though so is that any better?

Ravenstar


48 posted on 01/18/2005 4:37:18 AM PST by Ravenstar (Reinstitute the Constitution as the Ultimate Law of the Land)
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