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To: Graybeard58
How does New York know what somebodies cigarette bill is?

You would have to be quite the chain smoker to run up a tax bill like that.

Suppose the state sales tax on a pack of cigarettes is $2.50 per pack and the tax bill is for one year. You would have to smoke about 28 packs a day to run up that kind of a tax bill. Over two years it would be 14 packs a day.

Common sense says that someone with that kind of a tax bill is bringing them in to sell.

52 posted on 01/14/2005 10:05:13 PM PST by BJungNan (Did you call your congressmen to tell them to stop funding the ACLU? 202 224 3121)
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To: BJungNan
Common sense says that someone with that kind of a tax bill is bringing them in to sell.

The question was, "How does New York know what somebodies cigarette bill is" not whether they are bringing them in to sell, that part is fairly obvious. They aren't paying taxes and that's what New York wants. So they woldn't have a tax bill for New York to see.

54 posted on 01/14/2005 10:10:28 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: BJungNan

Taxes are actually a bit higher than that, around 3-3.50 per ( example- Marlboros at the res. were 22.50 today, at Tops they are 47.00 + tax). I know my brother in law makes runs each week for family and co-workers and they pay him back when he gives them to them. If he's charging them, it would look like he's buying and reselling them.


58 posted on 01/14/2005 10:15:39 PM PST by AirForceMom (They are scarmabling out of the woodwork.....call the paver.)
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To: BJungNan
See why BloomingIdiot is outraged over the loss of cigarette taxes?

New York City Smokers' Contributions to the City/State Economy-2001

There are approximately 1.3 million adult smokers in New York City. Here is what they already pay because they choose to buy a legal product:

Smokers Pay City Excise Taxes
$ 28,800,000
Smokers Pay City Sales Taxes
$ 68,400,000
Smokers Pay State Excise Taxes
$ 399,600,000
Smokers Pay State Sales Taxes
$ 64,800,000
Smokers Pay Tobacco Settlement Payments
$ 306,716,800
Total $ 868,316,800

Smokers'Economic/Tax Profile

Income
Smokers' median income 2000
$35,509
Median Income Smoker State Tax Liability
Annual state income tax liability for a couple
$ 1,386
Annual state income tax liability for a couple with two children
$ 1,250

Smoker Excise Tax/Sales Tax/Tobacco Settlement Payment Liability

Total average paid per New York City smoker in excise/sales taxes
$ 428
Cost per New York City smoker for settlement payments to New York
$ 234
Total annual payment per New York City smoker
$ 662

New York City Smoker Facts

New York City smoker payments of $868.3 million are equal to the following FY2002 budget amounts:

64% of the general corporation tax collected by the city 25% of general sales revenue
20% of New York City's personal income tax revenue

New York City smoker payments could fund the FY2002 budgets of:

The Department of Homeless Services ($548.8 million)
The New York, Queens, and Brooklyn libraries ($105.8 million)
The Department of Mental Health ($663.1 million)
Department of Youth and Community Development ($165 million)

The City University ($478.6 million)

CIGARETTES DON'T PAY TAXES - NEW YORK CITY SMOKERS DO!!

New York City Data Sources

Number of smokers (1,310,690)= Census Bureau 2000 New York City 18+ population (6,068,009) multiplied by CDC's 2000 percent of adults who are smokers in New York (21.6%).

Total packs sold in New York City = 360,000,000 (Orzechowski & Walker Tax Burden On Tobacco 2001 from New York City Department of Revenue). Derived by dividing New York City excise tax revenue by the excise tax rate per pack ($.08).

Total packs sold in New York = 890,100,000 (Orzechowski & Walker Tax Burden On Tobacco 2001 from New York Department of Revenue). Derived by dividing New York excise tax revenue by the excise tax rate per pack ($1.11).

New York City excise tax revenues = Orzechowski & Walker Tax Burden On Tobacco 2001 from New York City Department of Revenue.

New York City sales taxes = packs sold in New York City multiplied by sales tax rate (4.25% or $.19 per pack).

New York excise taxes = packs sold in New York City multiplied by state excise tax rate ($1.11 in 2001).

New York sales taxes = packs sold in New York City multiplied by sales tax rate (4% or $.18 per pack)

Tobacco Settlement Payments = [(Packs sold in New York City divided by packs sold in New York state) multiplied by settlement payments to New York state ($759.2 million in 2001 per Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids)].

Smokers' median income per CDC's Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System 2000, public use data.

Annual state income tax liability from PayBreeze software of General Programming, Inc., San Jose, California, which utilizes the Exact Calculation Method.

Total paid per New York City smoker excise & sales taxes = total excise and sales taxes paid ($561,600,000) divided by number of smokers (1,310,690)

Total paid per smoker for settlement payments to New York= New York City smokers' share of settlement payments to New York ($306,716,800) divided by number of New York City smokers (1,310,690).

New York City smoker facts from the city of New York, Executive Budget Fiscal Year 2003: Expense Revenue Contract, Online at

 

http://www.nyc.gov/html/omb/pdf/erc4_02a.pdf

and
http://www.nyc.gov/html/omb/pdf/erc4_02b.pdf



112 posted on 01/15/2005 6:42:49 AM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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