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Plant Owner Says EPA Nearly Ruined His Business
Hendersonville Times-News ^ | January 15, 2005 | Joel Burgess

Posted on 01/15/2005 8:19:30 AM PST by Gritty

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To: Gritty

BTTT


41 posted on 01/15/2005 12:31:48 PM PST by TruthNtegrity (Miss Beazley is such a cute little puppy. Makes me want one of my own.)
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To: snowsislander
I think we have some 600,000 practicing lawyers the last time that I looked

Being a lawyer will be a growth industry until all our tort laws and draconian regulations are completely overhauled. Naturally, this overhaul will be done by lawyers.

In other words, we will need even more lawyers.

Forget about "manufacturing". That's old fogey thinking. As long as we can continue to print money and rules everything will be just fine.

Just fine.

42 posted on 01/15/2005 12:36:00 PM PST by Gritty ("A basic definition: Politics is whatever you can get away with, without going to jail"-John Armor)
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To: freepatriot32

Add me please!


43 posted on 01/15/2005 12:42:17 PM PST by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: pointsal; wita

Did I say I was against it?? I was just stating an observation. Jeez lighten up.


44 posted on 01/15/2005 12:49:48 PM PST by superiorslots
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To: Gritty; American Carolina Stamping; snopercod

Follow-up Ping.


45 posted on 01/15/2005 12:51:38 PM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional.)
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To: Dan Evans
In other words, gasoline.

No, it was Zep I.D. Red (Liquid) - a degreaser. And they never dumped it, it just evaporated away.

Zep I.D. Red is a fast-evaporating industrial degreaser designed for use where fast evaporation and no residue are desirable. This versatile, fast-evaporating liquid degreaser combines speed in cleaning with high solvent power, but without chlorinated solvents or ozone depleting compounds (ODCs), such as 1,1,1, trichloroethane. Zep I.D.Red leaves no residue and is non-corrosive to metals. It may be used in a variety of applications by spraying and/or wiping. Removes oil deposits, grease, dirt, tar and lubricating compounds from circuit boards, electrical contacts, electric motors, machinery parts, electronic equipment, molds, textiles, etc. It's non-emulsifying formula does not interfere with oil/water separators. It is a thin, colorless liquid with a mild, solvent odor.

Here's some more info:

Plant owner may face $1.5 billion in fines (EPA is at it again!) Posted by Gritty on 09/26/2003

EPA contests amount of fine [EPA continues to harass small NC business owner - mine] posted by snopercod on 09/27/2003

46 posted on 01/15/2005 1:12:46 PM PST by snopercod (Due to the graphic nature of this tagline, viewer discretion is advised.)
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To: somniferum; farmfriend

"unelected, unaccountable EPA bureaucrats"

That is the problem with every Agency, local, state and federal. It's damn near impossible to fire them unless you frame them. They are protected with gov't liars, I mean lawyers and we have to pay for this crap.


47 posted on 01/15/2005 1:35:49 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: Gritty
Unforunately this is NOT uncommon or atypical of the EPA Nazis.

I know a man who was ruined by the EPA in IL and had to sell his business - all because he bought a building and land that USED to be a paint company. HE got the full wrath of the EPA and NOT the previous owner who actually polluted the land with paint solvents.

48 posted on 01/15/2005 1:40:19 PM PST by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Gen G Patton)
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To: Baynative

Opening a small business in Kalifornia is about like trying to outrun the SS troops in Berlin during WWII.


49 posted on 01/15/2005 1:44:21 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: backhoe
I know that sometimes you keep "lists".

If you are of a mind to, there are five threads here that belong together. This thread, plus the ones in #19 and #32.

50 posted on 01/15/2005 1:49:14 PM PST by snopercod (Due to the graphic nature of this tagline, viewer discretion is advised.)
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To: snopercod
This article reminded me of a story a few years back where a plant decided to recycle the benzine solvent they were using rather than pay fines or pay for the toxic disposal. The EPA officials decided they were still going to fine them for the amount they cycled through the plant.

I got a sneaky suspicion that the recyclers and toxic disposal companies are in bed with the EPA.

51 posted on 01/15/2005 1:56:09 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: stboz

The EPA, along with OSHA and other senseless governmental regulations, plue, the Unions, are why we are losing businesses to India, Mexico, and other countries. The very government that supposed to protect us, is killing us. And we won't even mention NAFTA, the trade deficit, and WalMart.


52 posted on 01/15/2005 2:07:12 PM PST by FrankR (Don't let the bastards wear you down...)
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To: snopercod

Thanks- I'll put them together.


53 posted on 01/15/2005 3:59:48 PM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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To: FrankR
The very government that supposed to protect us, is killing us.

A profound insight.

54 posted on 01/15/2005 5:48:48 PM PST by snopercod (Due to the graphic nature of this tagline, viewer discretion is advised.)
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To: farmfriend; All

55 posted on 01/17/2005 6:55:06 PM PST by Seadog Bytes (Benedict Arnold was a 'war hero' too... before he became a TRAITOR...!!!)
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To: Dan Evans
I used to work at Kennedy Space Center, and rainwater that collected in sumps there was categorized as "hazardous waste", because it had come in contact with galvanized gratings and the zinc content was "too high".

Same with various nitrogen compounds in water solution. Most places call that "fertilizer", but at KSC it was "hazardous waste".

It cost the American taxpayer $1.00 per gallon to haul off hundreds of thousands of gallons of rainwater every year.

56 posted on 01/22/2005 12:45:35 PM PST by snopercod ( The broadcast networks are at war with the Bush administration. - powerlineblog.com)
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To: Baynative
"We had 7 storm drain inlets on a twelve acre site. Those drains and the storm water pollution prevention programs that controlled them were managed by FOUR different agencies; city, county, state and FEDS"

I used to be Director of Engineering for the largest commercial printer (WW) and we faced the same problem. These JBTs would make us do repeated "Fat Head Minnow" tests where minnows were placed in samples of water upstream and downstream from our outfall.

The JBTs did not like the fact that more minnows survived in water downstream of our out fall. We treated our water so well that we were improving the quality of the water.

After the 4th rejected test we told them to select the testing facility of their choice and if we passed to leave us alone. They selected a testing facility in Ontario Canada.

They never miss an opportunity to take work away from US Citizens.

I did get a little payback when I blew in 2 of NYS DEC JBTs for going 80+ MPH in a 55 MPH zone. The slime ball they sent to take my statement suggested that my standards were too high as I expected these JBTs to obey the law. How do you respond to such convoluted thinking.

It is a toss up as to who I hate more (yes hate) mudslimes or government thugs.

57 posted on 01/22/2005 1:06:56 PM PST by Wurlitzer (I have the biggest organ in my town {;o))
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To: Gritty; Rebelbase; snopercod

I believe someone registered with the screen name "American Carolina Stamping" once.
I recall it from when the NC Freepers used to be listed over on the state board.

I wonder if it's Mr. McNabb?


58 posted on 01/22/2005 3:48:42 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Gritty; Constitution Day; TaxRelief; Helms; 100%FEDUP; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; ~Vor~; A2J; ...

Definitely NC Ping-worthy.

Please FRmail Constitution Day, TaxRelief OR Helms if you want to be added to or removed from this North Carolina ping list.
59 posted on 01/22/2005 3:50:35 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Constitution Day
I recall it from when the NC Freepers used to be listed over on the state board. I wonder if it's Mr. McNabb?

I believe it was.

60 posted on 01/22/2005 4:48:17 PM PST by Gritty ("Kyoto is hopeless in terms of delivering what the planet needs"-Peter Roderick,Friends of the Earth)
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