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To: miltonim
I do not agree with miltonium's view that Islam is a violent religion. I admire miltonium's loyalty to the Catholic Church. Citing the Koran to show that Islam is a religion of war can be misleading.

There are many passages in the Bible in which God commanded the Jews to become violent, but this does not prove that Christianity nor Judaism is a violent religion much less a religion of war. St. Joan of Arc was a warrior, yet she was canonized by the Catholic Church. Does it follow therefore that the Catholic Church is a religion of war because one of its saints was a warrior?

The very meaning of the word Islam is peace itself. Islam in Arabic has two meanings: that is, peace and submission to the will of God.

The Koran says that all the prophets of Israel as well as Jesus Christ and all of His apostles were all Muslims. Some say that this could not have happened because Islam appeared only five centuries after the birth of Christ. Therefore, Christ, much less the prophets, could not have been Muslims.

Christ, the Apostles and all the prophets of Israel were Muslims from the start because Islam means submission to the will of God. A Muslim is somebody who submits himself to the will of God. It is incongruous to think that the prophets, Christ and the Apostles did not submit themselves to the will of God during their times. Anybody who submits himself to the will of God is a Muslim. In fact, the Hadith of the prophet Mohammed says that it is not necessary for somebody to openly embrace Islam to become a Muslim. For as long as the person submits himself to the will of God, he is a Muslim, although he may be a practicing Catholic, Buddhist, Mormon, Protestant, Hindu or Shintoist.

It is written in Psalm 37:37(King James Version):

"Mark the perfect man and behold the upright: for the end of that man is peace."

Peace only comes through obedience to God's laws which is brought about through submission to the will of God. The end result of submitting yourself to the will of God is the abundance of peace, as the Christian Bible says and the Koran affirms.

I am sorry that I cannot agree with miltonium's view although I admire him for being a loyal Catholic.
9 posted on 01/16/2005 7:09:04 AM PST by Ramonchito
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To: Ramonchito

If your imam declares a Jihad, will you take up arms?


10 posted on 01/16/2005 7:28:52 AM PST by miltonim (Fight those who do not believe in Allah. - Koran, Surah IX: 29)
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To: Ramonchito
Your reply is completely disingenuous. The line that islam is a religion of peace is subverted by the open support, by islamic religious/ government officials and the muslim street, for the the slaughter and destruction of Christians, Jews and "pagans". In which islamic country are Christians and Jews allowed to worship freely and are not persecuted and murdered. Only if we ignore 1600 years of attempted world conquest and slaughter and the continual daily depredations by jihadists can we accept your position.
13 posted on 01/16/2005 8:47:28 AM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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