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Japan maps plan to defend southern islands
China Daily ^
| January 16, 2005
Posted on 01/16/2005 6:32:13 AM PST by snowsislander
Japan has mapped out a plan to defend a chain of its southernmost islands in the East China Sea amid alleged rising security concerns, a press report says.
 Members of Japan's Maritime Self-Defense Force. Japan has mapped out a plan to defend a chain of its southernmost islands in the East China Sea against invasion amid rising security concerns about China, a press report says. [AFP] |
The plan calls for the dispatch of 55,000 troops as well as warplanes, destroyers and submarines from Japan's main islands, Kyodo news agency reported.
Japan's national defense agency compiled the plan covering the islands lying in a 1,000-kilometer (625-mile) zone between the southern tip of Japan's Kyushu Island and Chinese Taiwan, Kyodo said, citing unspecified official documents.
In November Japan made public its new defense guidelines which explicitly point to China as a potential threat for the first time .
A Defense Agency official said that Japan's defense forces "do not have troops stationed on most of the southern remote islands and they are a vacuum in terms of security," according to Kyodo.
Under the new plan, naval patrol planes and the airborne warning and control system of the air defense force will collect information on the remote islands, the report said.
Of the 55,000 troops, 9,000 will be assigned to directly recapture invaded islands with the rest providing support for them, the report added.
Meanwhile, Japan has been pushing for a missile defense shield with the United States.
TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Japan
KEYWORDS: bmd; chicoms; china; defense; japan; navy
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To: snowsislander
Thanks for the info. It wouldn't surprise me if Communist China either:
A) turns on it's own population or
B) makes a quick grab for more territory that doesn't belong to her.
Since a fraction of Japan's Navy could sink all of China's shipping might, I think Beijing's Communist hardliners will go with choice "A".
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posted on
01/16/2005 6:41:30 AM PST
by
SaltyJoe
("Social Justice" begins with the unborn child.)
To: snowsislander
What is exactly going on in the picture?
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posted on
01/16/2005 6:52:45 AM PST
by
lt.america
(Captain was already taken)
To: lt.america
That's a good question. It appears that the sailor's footwear is being inspected.
To: snowsislander
There was a time when both China and Japan claimed Okinawa. If the US ever leaves the island, I would look for China to seriously think of taking it back.
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posted on
01/16/2005 7:01:45 AM PST
by
R. Scott
(Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
To: SaltyJoe
Thanks for the info. It wouldn't surprise me if Communist China either: A) turns on it's own population or
B) makes a quick grab for more territory that doesn't belong to her.
Since a fraction of Japan's Navy could sink all of China's shipping might, I think Beijing's Communist hardliners will go with choice "A".
I think that (a) is a certainty, but I am not ruling out (b) also occurring. I feel sure that the internal crackdown will come, as it has before.
But the Chicoms have been very deliberately inciting nationalist hatred toward the Japanese. While that is useful in getting the hoi polloi to take their mind off domestic issues, it is also worrisome in just how far the CCP is taking this. They could well be planning to make a grab for the oil and gas reserves, and this could be among their preparations.
To: snowsislander
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posted on
01/16/2005 7:13:20 AM PST
by
Eric in the Ozarks
(Any team that would fire # 68, Mike Morris, has no chance at going to the Super Bowl.)
To: snowsislander
That's a good question. It appears that the sailor's footwear is being inspected.
No, check the officers - it's the sailor's butt that's being inspected!
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posted on
01/16/2005 7:18:34 AM PST
by
UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
(Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
To: SaltyJoe
I read a report somewhere a couple of days ago that talked about the huge number of riots that are going on in China that are being covered up. It seems that the Chinese people think that their government is corrupt and aren't very happy about it. That and the fact that some of them are starving.
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posted on
01/16/2005 7:24:02 AM PST
by
dljordan
To: Eric in the Ozarks
"Are those spats ?"
Leggings. We wore them in the US Navy when I was in boot camp. Damned uncomfortable too, until you get them broken in. We still use them for ceremonial purposes.
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posted on
01/16/2005 7:26:09 AM PST
by
dljordan
To: dljordan
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posted on
01/16/2005 7:53:04 AM PST
by
Eric in the Ozarks
(Any team that would fire # 68, Mike Morris, has no chance at going to the Super Bowl.)
To: snowsislander
Sign of the changing times. Encourage and help Japan to rearm.
Use them as a counter balance to China/Russia/
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posted on
01/16/2005 8:09:12 AM PST
by
cynicom
(<p)
To: dljordan
I read a report somewhere a couple of days ago that talked about the huge number of riots that are going on in China that are being covered up. It seems that the Chinese people think that their government is corrupt and aren't very happy about it. That and the fact that some of them are starving. The Chinese have had venal governments for a very long time, although the current lot appear to be among the more gifted instances in Chinese history (so to speak. ;-)
I have seen some of this reporting also, and the local crackdowns will be brutal. We could be nearing one of the turning points, but I think that China would like to go a bit longer before they pull back and do a new, widespread edition of Cultural Revolution.
To: Eric in the Ozarks
Very stiff, very thick canvas. Some guys got infected ankles and legs from where the leggings chafed.
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01/16/2005 8:10:13 AM PST
by
dljordan
To: snowsislander
On the same subject but with more specifics, here's another article this time from the
Japan Times:
Defense plan prepared for remote islands
The Defense Agency has prepared a plan to defend the southern remote islands off Kyushu and Okinawa from possible invasion amid rising security concerns about China, according to documents obtained Saturday by Kyodo News. The agency compiled the plan in November on the assumption of an invasion of the islands located within a 1,000-km zone between the southern end of Kyushu and Taiwan. Thousands of islands are scattered in the area. The Senkaku Islands, claimed by both Japan and China, are among them. The plan calls for a dispatch of 55,000 troops from the Ground Self-Defense Force as well as planes, warships and submarines from the main islands in the event the remote islands are attacked. "The Self-Defense Forces do not have troops stationed on most of the southern remote islands and they are a vacuum in terms of security," a senior Defense Agency official said. "China has been expanding its scope of activities as seen in the case of an incursion of Japanese territorial waters (by a Chinese nuclear submarine) in November. We need to monitor its moves," the official said. Under the plan, patrol planes of the Maritime Self-Defense Force and the airborne warning and control system of the Air Self-Defense Force would collect information on the remote islands. Fighters, submarines and destroyers dispatched from the Kyushu and Chugoku regions would be divided into two groups to prevent aggressors from landing on the islands or block their supply routes. Of the 55,000 GSDF personnel, 9,000 would be assigned to recapture invaded islands and the others would provide rear-area support. The GSDF would mobilize its Western Army Infantry Regiment based in Nagasaki Prefecture, which consists of specially trained soldiers in charge of defending remote islands, and members of a planned rapid deployment force. They would descend onto the islands from the air. Troops stationed in several bases in Kyushu would be sent to the islands on MSDF transport ships. The infantry regiment was established in 2002 as part of the Defense Agency's review of its unit deployment plan. The agency used to place heavier emphasis on the northern island of Hokkaido to repel a Soviet invasion during the Cold War. The agency is also scheduled to launch the rapid deployment force, which will consist of Airborne Brigades, to boost the security of the southern remote islands. In September, the agency presented scenarios of Chinese invasions of Japan. A report listed possible attack scenarios by China, including a territorial dispute over the Senkaku Islands and illegal operations by Beijing over maritime resources in the East China Sea. The Ground Staff Office of the GSDF previously drafted a plan to cope with cross-strait military conflicts between China and Taiwan. But the new defense plan is the first penned by the agency on the assumption of an invasion of the southern remote islands.
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To: cynicom
That's my theory on the "Last Samurai" movie.
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posted on
01/16/2005 12:35:56 PM PST
by
SaltyJoe
("Social Justice" begins with the unborn child.)
To: snowsislander; dljordan; R. Scott; cynicom
Thoughts on option "B". China will focus on South Asia
Its time to think like a criminal. I like to imagine this because I wouldn't dare do it for fear of God's judgment (as well as mankind's prison systems). Since Communism denies God's existence, the socialist communist mentality is pure criminal intelligence that justifies any action to produce any desired result.
One can parallel predatory animals to criminals. When a criminal hunts for prey, he generally goes for the weakest of society. Sometimes, when society is too resilient, criminals go after other criminals. After all, how many drug dealers call the cops when they have their cash and stash jacked?
Though any crime is regretful and wrong, this is the best situation that civilization could hope for until Christ returns and sin and wickedness no longer are. ChiCom's Invading Taiwan would certainly be ideologically meaningful for purposes of revenge, but it would produce little in the way of capital gains. The risk of political backlash and friction from the global neighborhood would have too great for either success or failure.
(!!!!!!!!!!!!! Call me crazy, and I'm hope I'm dead wrong, but I think that ChiComs would muscle and swindle Laotians and Burmese out of their opium (and more) before going after Taiwan. If I were to weigh this theory of mine on a scale of 1 to 10, I would give it a 3.5. But I give the threat of ChiCom post-Soviet Styled Criminal Syndicates a 9.5).
From the CIA web site on Laos:
world's third-largest illicit opium producer (estimated cultivation in 2003 - 18,900 hectares, a 19% decrease over 2002; estimated potential production in 2003 - 200 metric tons, a 11% increase from 2002); potential heroin producer; transshipment point for heroin and methamphetamine produced in Burma; illicit producer of cannabis; growing methamphetamine abuse problem
Another fact that lends to this theory are that Laos is already Communist. If a Communist is going to squat and not do it in their own yard, then its a lot easier to park it in their comrades backyard than to do it in your adversarys. Think: Warsaw Pact. Or, think Saudi Arabia and the rest of the Middle East.
Laotians are ethnically akin to Thais and speak nearly the same language. But, I have to wonder if Thais will offer help when post-Soviet style Chinese thugs infiltrate Laos' criminal industries (drugs, gambling, sex, etc.). Like ex-Soviets, ChiCom criminals will be ruthless and armed to the teeth. If they go after a target, I doubt that they would have little compunction for others bruised feelings or broken bones. There has been little to no evolution of Chinese love of thy brother and we can expect other nations to receive the same charming personality and inter-racial friendship as the Tibetans now know.
If God allows us another decade, then its unavoidable that ChiComs will make a push for Laos and Burma. Burma (second largest opium producer) would be trickier since Fascism and Communism get along like crack addicts fighting over the last pipe and stone. If theres an excuse required for ChiCom involvement in Burma, it would come from Communist Sino-Tibetan sympathy for ethnic Tibetans being abused by Burmese juntas. The reality is that it would be all for the poppies.
(Backing up the theory of Chinese Communist expansion for economic growth):
Recalling recent (within the last century) history, Stalin made a land grab of Ukraine, Latvia, and Lithuania solely for its crops. The Soviets sold the crops to the world for industrial capital while shooting or starving their victims (mostly Ukrainians). We can boo-hoo the millions of murdered Nazi undesirables, but most of today's Western population has no idea that Russians murdered much much more long before the world new of a Nazi party.
http://www.propaganda101.com/PoliticsEconomicsHistory/newpage122.htm
2. Russia, Ukraine, 1920s-30s- Since the revolution, Stalin has already kill, arrested, or exiled all of the 1917 Bolsheviks who shared power with him. They were put before "juries" and "confessed" their "crimes" (after being horribly tortured) like being a "Trotskyite" or being against the communist system. For resisting Communist rule, Stalin ordered collectivization of all food in Ukraine to be conducted by his henchmen, Kaganovich and Khrushchev. By doing this he murdered between 7 million and 10 million men, women, and children. He HATED Ukrainians because they were simply very patriotic, freedom-loving and anti-Communist. Stalin considered sending all 40 million Ukrainians to Siberia, but he didn't because he knew that the Ukrainian Insurgent Army would be flooded with new recruits to fight the Russians. In his entire time as supreme ruler, Stalin murdered at the very least 20 million souls. Hitler murdered nowhere near as many as Stalin. Yet little is known about Stalin throughout America and the rest of the world because Hitler was conquered, his crimes were carefully documented, and his crimes were revealed to the world unlike Stalin.
Communism still continues its unwavering ideology and it still commits genocides. Even if the world had no desire to get high, Communism would still need a host to such dry. That South and Southeast Asia are major producers of a highly profitable drug, and that Communism has no compunction for inflicting pain and suffering if it results in a desired outcome, Chinas involvement in the opium drug trade is inevitable. Its similar to how Communists are inextricably linked to drugs in Central and South America. Cuba and North Korea are known for doing anything for cold hard cash.
Thailand, being a free society, will be the focus of acute left wing politics (like what South Korea has to endure). Many non-indigenous Westerners visit Thailand for easy access to drugs and other activities criminal in their own nations. (I say non-indigenous since Western is becoming more of a state of mind than a place. Example: the last Ukrainian elections). Hopefully, Thailand will have a growing middle class. The growing wealth is, of course, very good for economics. It will also bring intellectual laziness that the world already suffers. Thais will be scourged with university socialist half-wits as well as the ignorance of dirt farmer Ho Chi Minh revolutionaries.
The left wingers will say that the worlds resistance (probably led by the US, but also by other interested free republics like Australia and Japan) to ChiComs expansion will be all about the drugs. Its the same argument that left wing politics use concerning oil in Iraq today. The irony is that the left wing is right on both accounts. The war today and the wars in the future are and will be to keep resources out of the hands of criminals. Tomorrows opium war will be dirtier politics since left wingers will target any hypocritical past drug habits or experimentation (legal alcohol included). If this happens on President Ws watch (and I think it will happen sooner rather than later), then left wingers will focus even more on his greener days as wild youth.
(NOTE TO READER: Ive been to Thailand, so I can vouch for Thailands over the top charity work they provide to Farangs foreigners via the tourist cops as well as extraordinary and cheerful Thai citizen. The world does not deserve Thailand.)
Lessons on the War on Drugs in South America (which we are winning, dont let anyone fool you otherwise
unless a liberal democrat is elected president), must be applied to South and Southeast Asia. Thailand, should she desire to remain free, will have crack down much harder on drugs.
Heres how to knock down the intellectual debate defending drug abuse. When I debate against the legalize drugs crowd, I simply state that we already have legalized drugs: Smoking and Alcohol. Both will get you high and both will kill you just as dead as pot, cocaine, and opium. Giving drugs a corporate opportunity would see all formerly illegal drugs as commercially altered and highly addictive as the tobacco cigarettes presently are. This argument usually shuts them up.
Thailand already provides enough diversions that tourists dont need to fund criminal industries. If a visiting Westerner or anyone else still wants to feed the monkey on his back, they can brave a trip to another country to find that bigger and longer lasting high. Pushing such drug tourists over the border will relieve the cops of the normal (and biologically hazardous) baby sitting they would have to otherwise perform for vomiting opium addicts. Maybe Thailand wont have to be as police oriented as Singapore, and a doubt that Thais would put up with that form of government, but a growing middle class requires rule of law and discipline for those obstructing or breaking the law. Adventure tourist looking to indulge their sinful vices will just have to take it across the border.
(ANOTHER SIDE NOTE ON DRUG ARGUMENTS. When a left-winger tries to explain drug economics to me of this flavor, South Americas economy would improve if America would just legalize drugs. I respond with this: If America legalizes drugs, then every drug user from college kids to dirt farmer is going to have a personal pot patch of their own. Corporations wont even get a chance to mass produce a super crack rock since Americans would be too pot happy high from dope to even be that ambitious. So, why would Americans buy South American drugs when its being grown in their own backyard, sink, bath tub, living room, etc.? This response usually shuts them up. Its a good retort. I recommend it. Ive never smoked pot or crack, so I cant say if its true. But those who regurgitate the "legalize drugs" mantra seem to have no defense against this.)
The last tsunami is Gods wake up call to the world. It also forces free nations to pay attention to the South Asian region. We will see more action there. Although it wont always be over oil friction will center on the same resource feuds as anywhere else around the world. Communist errors will continue to plague us until Christ returns. But research, preparation, work, and lots of prayers will minimize this dying threat.
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posted on
01/16/2005 12:56:47 PM PST
by
SaltyJoe
("Social Justice" begins with the unborn child.)
To: SaltyJoe
" ChiCom's Invading Taiwan would certainly be ideologically meaningful for purposes of revenge, but it would produce little in the way of capital gains. The risk of political backlash and friction from the global neighborhood would have too great for either success or failure."
It's a matter of national pride. How dare they deny the glorious revolution?
"(!!!!!!!!!!!!! Call me crazy, and I'm hope I'm dead wrong, but I think that ChiComs would muscle and swindle Laotians and Burmese out of their opium (and more) before going after Taiwan."
Chinese are already heavily involved in the opium trade and have been for years.
"Like ex-Soviets, ChiCom criminals will be ruthless and armed to the teeth."
That's because many of them work for the Chinese Army which is corrupt to the core.
The drug issue is valid. Also the Chinese have immense population pressures and resource issues which will compel them to try and expand their borders until the extra population is relieved either by warfare or expansion and guess who the designated hitter is?
Good post dude.
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posted on
01/16/2005 1:32:42 PM PST
by
dljordan
To: dljordan
I'm sure that this is already done, but hasn't be publicly or internationally pushed: Corporate gambling casinos for the Far East.
What we have with our Native Americans is what the Far East, from Japan's Pachinko parlors to South East Asia's casino night clubs could operate. The state regulated and publicly owned casinos (like the "Hard Rock Casino" franchise http://www.hardrock.com/casinos/casinos.asp?loc=london) or Vegas or Atlantic City styled casino strips would take away money that would otherwise fund criminal empires. There will always be a criminal element in mankind, but there are ways of limiting their damage. If a casino industry is publicly regulated with social authority, then it will be a growth industry. Criminal casinos, which will always occur among thieves and murderers, will be unregulated and will undermine their own finances.
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posted on
01/17/2005 8:10:02 AM PST
by
SaltyJoe
("Social Justice" begins with the unborn child.)
To: BroncosFan
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posted on
01/20/2005 8:25:35 PM PST
by
BroncosFan
("It's worse than a crime - it's a mistake." Talleyrand.)
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