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Britain's online imam declares war as he calls young to jihad
TIMESONLINE ^ | 01/17/05 | Sean O'Neil and Yaakov Lappin

Posted on 01/16/2005 8:43:57 PM PST by Pikamax

January 17, 2005

Britain's online imam declares war as he calls young to jihad By Sean O'Neil and Yaakov Lappin Omar Bakri Mohammed, banned from many British mosques, is issuing a call to arms to a committed audience

AN EXTREMIST London cleric is using live broadcasts on the internet to urge young British Muslims to join al-Qaeda and has condoned suicide terrorist attacks. Omar Bakri Mohammed, who has lived in the UK for 18 years on social security benefits, pledged allegiance to Osama bin Laden and told his followers that they were in a state of war with Britain.

The Times monitored Mr Bakri Mohammed’s nightly webcasts in which he declared that the “covenant of security” under which Muslims live peacefully in the UK had been “violated” by the Government’s tough anti-terrorist legislation, The Syrian-born radical said: “I believe the whole of Britain has become Dar ul-Harb (land of war). In such a state, he added, “the kuffar (non-believer) has no sanctity for their own life or property.”

In his broadcasts, conducted through an internet chatroom, Mr Bakri Mohammed stopped short of calling for terrorist attacks in Britain. But he said that Muslims should join the jihad “wherever you are” and told one woman that she was permitted to become a suicide bomber.

Mr Bakri Mohammed, 46, has indefinite leave to remain in the UK but could be detained without trial under the Anti-Terrorism Crime and Security Act if the Home Secretary were to decide he is a terrorist associate.

Last Monday he told his listeners: “Al-Qaeda and all its branches and organisations of the world, that is the victorious group and they have the emir and you are obliged to join. There is no need . . . to mess about.” Two nights later he said that the voices of dead Mujahidin were calling young Britons to fight. “These people are calling you and shouting to you from far distant places: al jihad, al jihad. They say to you my dear Muslim brothers, ‘Where is your weapon, where is your weapon?’ Come on to the jihad,” he said.

The cleric is regarded as a fringe extremist by mainstream Muslims and is banned from preaching at many mosques. But every night he is using internet forums to reach an audience of between 60 and 70 committed listeners, most of whom are under 30.

He lectures for 90 minutes and his audience responds enthusiastically, typing questions about jihad and suicide bombing which are answered verbally. An announcement last October that Mr Bakri Mohammed had disbanded his al-Muhajiroun movement was welcomed. But it appears that he has regrouped and is delivering a more hardline message through the internet and at secretive meetings.

Speaking directly to The Times, Mr Bakri Mohammed denied that he was calling for violent action in the UK. He said his definition of Britain as Dar ul-Harb was “theoretical”.

He added: “It means that Muslims can no longer be considered to have sanctity and security here, therefore they should consider leaving this country and going back to their homelands. Otherwise they are under siege and obviously we do not want to see that we are living under siege.”

The alternative to leaving was to put pressure on the Government to review its anti-terrorist laws, he said, and that the definition of jihad took many forms and not simply military activity. He also denied that he was inciting others to commit acts of violence.

Andrew Dismore, a Labour MP who has long campaigned against Mr Bakri Mohammad’s extremism, said: “With these words he may well be committing offences under the Terrorism Act and other legislation. I will be raising this immediately with the Home Secretary and the Metropolitan Police.”

WAR OF WORDS

“If I am living under a system, Islam allows me to take the benefit that system offers.”

August 1998 on accepting social security benefits

“What happened was a direct consequence of the evil foreign policy of the USA. This is compensation and payback for its own atrocities against Muslims.”

September 2001 on 9/11 attacks

“I am very happy today. As much as I regret the innocent people who passed away, with the USA you must pay.”

September 2001 on 9/11 attacks

“We don’t want to see a September 11 in the UK and I think the British public should take these threats very seriously.”

February 2003 on danger of terror attacks in Britain

“I can sense there is frustration in the hearts of the youth and they want action. I can see from debates and talking to people on the internet that there are many people abroad wanting to attack Britain.”

February 2003 on anger among Muslim youth

“You must fight for the way of Allah, for the sake of Allah, to kill first and to be killed.”

March 2004 address to followers in Derby

“What happened in Madrid is all revenge. Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, life for life.”

March 2004 referring to the Madrid train bombings

“Martyrdom is what you want. Do the effort. Clear your intention. Go forward, never look backwards. Make sure you have nothing left behind you to think about or cry for and fight in the name of Allah.”

April 2004 addressing followers in East London


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1 posted on 01/16/2005 8:44:00 PM PST by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax; nuconvert

Silly Imam! Hang Him now!


2 posted on 01/16/2005 8:45:37 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Revel; Velveeta; Dolphy

More jihad calls.


3 posted on 01/16/2005 8:47:05 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Pikamax

Why all the legal niceties?

This guy should have an unfortunate fatal accident.


4 posted on 01/16/2005 8:48:29 PM PST by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the Rats in terror before me.)
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To: Pikamax

"knock knock"

"who's there?"

"Land Shark..."

"candygram..."


5 posted on 01/16/2005 8:48:55 PM PST by bitt ('every fifth round is a tracer')
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To: Pikamax
He added: “It means that Muslims can no longer be considered to have sanctity and security here, therefore they should consider leaving this country and going back to their homelands.

I agree with the Iman on this.

6 posted on 01/16/2005 8:50:15 PM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: Calpernia

Thanks for the ping Calpernia.


7 posted on 01/16/2005 8:50:26 PM PST by Cindy
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To: F14 Pilot

I've said it many times before and I'll keep saying it. Our secret weapon against domestic islamist terror is welfare reform. These fu****s and their followers can't plot our destruction if they have to drive a cab or work the 7/11 counter ten hours a day. If law enforcement and homeland security do their job and get the saudi "charities" and their blood money out the islamists will be too busy making a living to build their bombs. This of course explains why the most notorious islamists over here happened to be comfortably ensonced in our university system.


8 posted on 01/16/2005 8:51:55 PM PST by sinanju
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To: Pikamax
Omar Bakri Mohammed, who has lived in the UK for 18 years on social security benefits, pledged allegiance to Osama bin Laden and told his followers that they were in a state of war with Britain.

The Brits are paying that maroon to live there while preaching that incitement? But who is the bigger maroon, Omar or the British official that doesn't kick his fat Muslim butt out of the country?

9 posted on 01/16/2005 8:53:59 PM PST by xJones
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To: Pikamax

He declared war?
He has declared himself an enemy in their midst...
Shouldn't he be arrested and charged with sedition, or killed in his attempt to "avoid arrest"?

Semper Fi


10 posted on 01/16/2005 8:56:43 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Pikamax

I suppose most Europeans think you can just ignore these fools and they'll go away. But the rhetoric of violence is what usually proceeds the violent acts. Time and again we've seen this with these types of "Imams." These people incite violence and then feign innocence; they even want to claim they're being picked on when someone wants them to stop their calls for violence. They revel in the spilling of blood, the more the merrier, the more indiscriminate the better too. It's long past time for people to wake up to the obvious fact that these are no holy man. And regardless of what one thinks of Islam, it's also obvious that there are more than enough young Muslim thugs eager to injure and kill without pity or remorse.


11 posted on 01/16/2005 9:13:32 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Liberalism is proof that intelligent people can ignore as much as the ignorant.)
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To: Pikamax
There must be a rash of Imams, clerics etc getting online to promote jihad. See this thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1322224/posts

Off with their heads!

12 posted on 01/16/2005 9:26:40 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: rdl6989

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1322224/posts

oops.


13 posted on 01/16/2005 9:29:13 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: Pikamax
"Britain's online imam "

Time to pull the plug on this guy...permanently!

14 posted on 01/16/2005 9:30:20 PM PST by endthematrix (Declare 2005 as the year the battle for freedom from tax slavery!)
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To: elhombrelibre

They all laughed at that silly man, Adolf Hitler.


15 posted on 01/16/2005 10:05:32 PM PST by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the Rats in terror before me.)
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To: Pikamax
This jihad cancer is quickly spreading among third world nations...even those in our own hemisphere.

JMHO, but I think we only have a couple years window to severely curtail this problem.

The solution involves 'actions' against known terrorist groups, radical clerics such as the one in Britain, their families and inner circles, and the countries such as Iran and Syria and Saudi Arabia who sponsor them.

If its done effectively, some of it wont make the papers either.

Iran is one key I believe. Eventually, they will strike a strategic partnership with their now silent partner, China.

If we do nothing, eventually we are looking at a global conflict such as we have never seen.
16 posted on 01/16/2005 10:09:18 PM PST by Dat Mon (will work for clever tagline)
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To: Pikamax

somebody whack this guy .....

I mean come on , when is enough enough ?


17 posted on 01/16/2005 10:11:53 PM PST by injin
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To: Pikamax

Let's keep our eyea and ears open here in the US, we have about 6 million of them here, all nice and quiet right now, peace loving, loving the good life in America, waiting for the call.


18 posted on 01/16/2005 10:12:15 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Sit nomen Dómini benedíctum,Ex hoc nunc, et usque in sæculum! per ómnia saecula saeculórum)
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To: river rat
Mr. Rat, you make a good point.

From the article, AN EXTREMIST London cleric ... pledged allegiance to Osama bin Laden and told his followers that they were in a state of war with Britain.

I suspect that our British cousins will be, as they say, "remanding the individual to custody."

Disagreement is one thing, declaring war is quite another.

19 posted on 01/16/2005 10:15:40 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Pikamax

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37573
(British jihadist depicts U.S. Capitol in flames)

[Sheik Omar] Bakri has boasted openly about exploiting the freedom of speech in the West as a weapon against it – to "transform the West into Dar Al-Islam," or House of Islam.

"I want to see the black flag of Islam flying over Downing Street," he has said. ...

According to Sheik Omar, Muslims in the West have very serious responsibilities in preparing the people to embrace Islam or to accept the Islamic way of life.


20 posted on 01/16/2005 11:25:53 PM PST by texasbluebell
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