Posted on 01/16/2005 9:50:21 PM PST by ddtorque
Islamic extremists may have murdered four members of a Coptic Orthodox family found bound, gagged and with their throats slit on Friday in their Jersey City home, a law-enforcement official familiar with the case said.
...Hossam Armanious, 47, Amal Garas, 37, and their daughters Sylvia, 15, and Monica, 8, were found dead in their Oakland Avenue home early Friday after family members alerted police that nobody had heard from them in days.
...Friends, relatives and co-worshippers of the devout family spent much of Saturday wondering how the seemingly upstanding Armanious family could fall victim to such a shockingly brutal crime. Several spoke of Hossam Armanious' participation in heated discussions about the Islamic faith on the Paltalk.com messenger service and threats he received for expressing his views about the religion.
...translation of passage 47:4 of the Quran reads in part: "Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers [in fight], smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly [on them]."
...The Armanious family moved to the United States from Egypt in part to escape religious persecution. Hossam Armanious had sensed a rise in anti-Christian extremism and wanted to make a better life for his family in America, Ayman Garas said.
...Fred Ayad, deacon of the couple's St. George Coptic Orthodox Church, said that the entire community was in a "panic" over the apparent targeting of the family, as well as the murders of a Coptic deacon in December and a Coptic cabdriver in late 2003.
...Copts are Egyptian Christians, a minority group of about 6 million in a nation of 60 million, and have been killed in religious rioting and during attacks on Christian churches by Islamic militants. Coptic leaders also say they lack representation in the Egyptian government and are treated like second-class citizens.
(Excerpt) Read more at northjersey.com ...
We need to get control of our borders now. The northeastern states are being overrun with illegal Muslim immigration.
Has this story been picked up by the MSM yet? .....Fox News?
Tens of thousands of Muslims every year are apprehended at the U.S.-Mexican border attempting to enter the country illegally, so God only knows how many make it in.
This is totally unacceptable. The FBI needs to infiltrate these groups asap. They did it to the KKK and they should do it here.
PalTalk political forums have been virtually over run by Muslim rooms. I used to use PalTalk. It was a nice way to create a private room to talk to family and share cam pictures. But, we stopped doing so after my brother had his account stolen by hackers, along with all his personal information he had given to PalTalk.
>as well as the murders of a Coptic deacon in December and a
>Coptic cabdriver in late 2003.
So this is the third incident.
Ban all Islamic immigration NOW.
About 75 percent of Americans have been screaming for immigration reform/real border control. President Bush just isn't interested in what the majority of Americans want.
On a side note, Texas has one of the fastest growing Muslim/Mid Eastern populations in the country.
Religion of peace my derriere.... The jihad is here and now, and we absolutely have to confront it with everything we have, or else, this type of slaughter will start happening everywhere in the country a Muslm community exists. I say do unto them before they do unto us...
Coulnt be since Texas is so close to the border right??? nah could'nt be(sarcasm)
Coulnt be since Texas is so close to the border right??? nah could'nt be(sarcasm)
Of course not. This would go against the religion of peace view that the MSM is trying to portray.
The MSM should be considered an accessory to this murder IF this was done by IslamoFascists.
But the KKK didn't have CAIR and the MSM to defend its 'right' to commit terrorist acts.
ooops....sorry for double post
I was not aware of these...do you have any links?
If you find this story anywhere in the MSM it'll be on page 15 of the gardening section.
In cold blood.
...Friends, relatives and co-worshippers of the devout family spent much of Saturday wondering how the seemingly upstanding Armanious family could fall victim to such a shockingly brutal crime.
Think Islam extremists. Works for me.
Time to LOck and loas. It's time to bear down on the Governmet about the borders ans deportation of all illegal aliens and Muslims. Islam and Chritianity has never mixed and never will. It's all in GOD'S hands!
Not only does Islam and Christianity not mix but neither does Islam and anything else. Think of the wild riots in India that killed more people in one year than 200 years of Protestant and Catholic conflicts killed in Ireland/Northern Ireland. Just who does Islam get along with?
By the time the Stupid Dummo's finally realize what they have been advocating their heads will be rolling in the street! Their women and children will be enslaved! They should make sure their ELETIST pay the highest price for their treachery!
"...he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."
Think so (not been watching much today), big thread at
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1321798/posts?q=1&&page=1#1
I'm looking for something in CNN, FNC, AP, Reuters, etc.
I did a Google search on the father's name and came up w/quite a few articles.
I don't have cable, so I can't say about FOX, although my sister said she DID hear it on FOX, yet, it's not on their website.
I won't give CNN a hit, so I don't know about them...
:)
the perps HAD to have left some forensics...
I am with everyone else......no more immigration, and Muslims who espouse this terror even in chat rooms should be expelled immediately....
If the perps were indeed Muslims he knew from conversations in a chat room, then how did they find out where he lived? It seems highly unlikely that he'd offer this info freely.
I have not heard any numbers reported to be that high on this. Would appreciate a link to the supporting evidence.
....and I'll dig up another one in a minute.
I'm sure CAIR will making a statement condemning butchering Christians shortly. Just don't hold your breath.
By the time the Stupid Dummo's finally realize what they have been advocating their heads will be rolling in the street! Their women and children will be enslaved! They should make sure their ELETIST pay the highest price for their treachery!
By the time they realize, it will all be W's fault!
I bet this gets swept under the carpet with some vague statement that the truth will never be known for sure.
Most of the people apprehended have been Mexican Nationals looking for work, but in 2002, about 8,000 of the illegals arrested were “special interest aliens”
The number Fox gives is a bit lower, but still alarmingly high. Thanks for the info.
In the other link (to FrontPageMag) it says "Roughly 60,000 illegal immigrants designated as 'other-than-Mexican,' or OTMs, were detained last year along the U.S.-Mexico border, including a sizable number from Arab and Muslim countries."
The "sizable number" they're referring to is pretty vague, so let's be conservative and say that it's only 1/6 of the 60K total. That would put the figure right around the numbers reported by FOX. So in retrospect I should've said "thousands" (per year) rather than "tens of thousands."
Still, and as you mentioned, those #s are alarmingly high.
Everyone seems to be missing the obvious. The Christian victims were bound, gaged, and had their throats slashed in complete accordance with the Islamic BuyBull (the Koran).
However, the grizzly murders were actually done by a very clever atheist, who did it according to the Koran, to purposely keep the war going between the two religions !!!
Naaahhhhh... no atheist is that smart, so it had to be the filthy work of Islamofascists !!! ;-))
Islam, the Religion of Peace™, and THEY'LL KILL YOU TO PROVE IT!
Guess we waited too long to "bring the war to the terrorists." They're already here. And probably receiving taxpayer assistance.
Really; where did you get that info?
The BP only apprehended about 1,100 folks from Muslim or Arab countries n FY 2004.
Thanks for sharing that.
The vast majority of OTM's, about 99%, are from Central and South America. Out of that 60,000+, only 1,100+ were from Arab and Muslim countries.
Also multiple stab wounds, according to one report.
I do think this is a watershed event.
The KKK was a bunch of inbred amatuers coimpared to this group.
Its like the Klan on steroids.
What they were probably meaning was IN THIS COUNTRY - in the land of the free and the home of the brave with the First Amendment. The Copts know very well the tender mercies of the Islamic nutjobs in Egypt who have persecuted their ancestors for their Christian faith for over a millenia and wiped out their native Egyptian language, the speech of the civlized people who created the pyramids - and replaced it with the tongue of desert banditti.
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