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Doctors, Others Deride Chiropractic School
AP ^ | 1/16/05 | BRENT KALLESTAD

Posted on 01/17/2005 8:04:02 AM PST by anniegetyourgun

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To: zzen01

A frangent lot too.


22 posted on 01/17/2005 9:01:06 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: rlmorel

I feel the same way about the WOD threads....


23 posted on 01/17/2005 9:01:57 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

Ask the football players if it works...


24 posted on 01/17/2005 9:04:52 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: joesnuffy

All I know is personal experience of trying to get care "on the cheap" from one of these. I came out worse off than I went in. And frankly, the 'practors that I've met were quite flaky folk. But, hey - it's just my own experience.


25 posted on 01/17/2005 9:12:23 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Fishing-guy
"Since medicine is a scientific profession, chiropractors need to publish scientific articles to proof their points."

Nah. All that "scientific" stuff is boring and requires a lot of work etc. If it works, why to test it? America has enough of these pointy-headed professor-types who believe in un-Christian crapola like the so-called "scientific method". The satanic theory of evolution is already coming crashing down as a just another theory not more valid than a fairy-tale in an old tribal chronicle. In any case, I'm sure chiropractors are better Christians than MDs who are probably all evolutionists. (/sarcasm)

26 posted on 01/17/2005 9:14:25 AM PST by Truthsayer20
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To: Floyd R Turbo

"Chiropractic is about NOT medicine."

LOL. However, to me chiropractic is just an unusual and glorified physical therapy. Since physical therapy works closely with the medical profession, I would think chiropractic would want to go the scientific route too.


27 posted on 01/17/2005 9:14:25 AM PST by Fishing-guy
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To: Fishing-guy

"Since medicine is a scientific profession, chiropractors need to publish scientific articles to proof their points."


Having some slight knowledge of the history of "mainstream" medicine and some firsthand experience with chiropractic, it is my conclusion that chiropractic is unlikely ever to achieve even one percent of the damage to human health that "mainstream" medicine has accomplished. As to the actual improvements achieved, that is another matter.


28 posted on 01/17/2005 9:15:12 AM PST by RipSawyer ("Embed" Michael Moore with the 82nd airborne.)
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To: RipSawyer

let see, people are living longer and longer. Is it because we are eating healthier and taking care of our bodies? UNLIKELY.

It's more likely all these "scientific" medicine stuff are keep us alive. However, the trick is to find a competent doctor to administer all these science stuff.


29 posted on 01/17/2005 9:21:00 AM PST by Fishing-guy
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To: Fishing-guy

"It's more likely all these "scientific" medicine stuff are keep us alive."


I did not intend to address the issue of the benefits of mainstream medicine which are real, I only addressed the fact that many people have died or been made severely ill by the effects of the same. I doubt that chiropractic has ever done anywhere near the damage to people that allopathic medicine has done.


30 posted on 01/17/2005 9:25:52 AM PST by RipSawyer ("Embed" Michael Moore with the 82nd airborne.)
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To: sarasota

"I know many people who get relief from adjustments instead of looking for just the right drug to correct the problem. Whatever works."

I've used them many times over the years. Not often, but when you need one there's nothing better. I'm not saying that whatever it is that's "out of place" wouldn't get better over time either on it's own or with pills from an MD, but sometimes I've hurt so badly I didn't want to wait that long. Thumbs up from me!


31 posted on 01/17/2005 9:33:00 AM PST by mupcat
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To: Fishing-guy

That's what my mother thought and she took pills too numerous to count. Died from a stroke, related heart problems, osteoporosis, arthritis and so on. It rendered her depressed and stole her energy.


32 posted on 01/17/2005 9:37:33 AM PST by sarasota
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To: anniegetyourgun
For whatever it's worth, chiropractors do seem to help my back pain but I think they go way too far in what they claim it can do. I should also point out that I once had health benefits that would pay for a Christian Science practitioner. No, I don't belong to that faith but apparently the company's owners did.
33 posted on 01/17/2005 9:43:31 AM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: theDentist
When I had back problems for 8 months, all doctors would do is prescribe painkillers and the like. The Chiropractor went to work on me and inside a month I was back to normal. Pseudo-science my a$$>

I haven't had to go to a chiropractor since I had back surgery four years ago. For twenty years prior to that, I routinely went to a chiropractor for chronic back pain as well as so-called maintenance visits because my chiropractor had convicned me that he could actually cure the cause of my back pain. (If he was curing me, then why did I need twenty years of treatment?)

On one of my last visit to the chiropractor prior to seeking treatment from a real doctor, I was in incredible pain and asked the chiropractor if perhaps I had a ruptured disk or something, he just shrugged my question off by telling me that if I had a ruptured disk I would not have been able to drive to his office. Two days later, I no longer had back pain, but I did have numbness in my feet. Over the next few weeks the numbness progressed to the point where I fell up the stairs. The chiropractor told me that my body was reacting to the adjustments. A few days later I experienced incontinence. I then went to a real doctor, who sent me ASAP to see a neurosurgeon, who ordered an MRI, which showed that my disk had literally broken into fragments that were now pressing against the nerves running down my spine, which not only numbed my feet, but also numbed the pain that I had been experiencing in my back.

The surgery took almost four hours. The doctor removed literally dozens of disk fragments that were dangerously close to causing total paralysis from the waist down. My surgeon summed up the situation best when he said there is a not a chiropractor in the world who can remove disk fragments that are pressing against the nerves. He also said that the adjustments could have contributed to the degeneration of the disk (bone and disk and bone crunching and grinding together during dozens and dozens of adjustments I received over years and years) and may have been the cause in whole or in part for manipulating the disk fragments against the nerves.

The surgery is not perfect. But I haven't had the constant pain that sent me to the chiropractor every few weeks and I am a lot more active and athletic now than when I was going to the bonequacker.

34 posted on 01/17/2005 9:50:22 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Temple Owl

ping


35 posted on 01/17/2005 9:51:37 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: RipSawyer
I doubt that chiropractic has ever done anywhere near the damage to people that allopathic medicine has done.

Perhaps, but there are serious risks involved with chiropractic. Some people have been killed by spinal adjustments.

36 posted on 01/17/2005 9:57:27 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (With enemies like Michael Moore, who needs friends?)
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To: anniegetyourgun
I feel the same way about the WOD threads..

And let's not forget the endless threads on who is the best Republican candidate for the 2008 Pres election.

Let's move on already. Who is the best for 2012?

37 posted on 01/17/2005 10:12:47 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58
2012? Time to start a new thread.....

; ]

Just don't start one on creationism vs evolution, okay?

38 posted on 01/17/2005 10:26:00 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Squawk 8888

"Some people have been killed by spinal adjustments."<<<<


This may be true but I don't personally know anyone who claims severe harm by a chiropractor. On the other hand, I have had a severe reaction to one antibiotic and my wife has had numerous bad reactions to medicine. I could probably type for hours about bad experiences of people in my family or with whom I am acquainted. The thalidomide story alone is probably far in excess of all the damage ever done by chiropractors and we are still hearing of medicines being pulled from the shelves when their true effects become known. Remember that the physicians of two hundred years ago had great confidence in their treatments which mostly sound like madness today. What will people one hundred years from now think of today's medicine?


39 posted on 01/17/2005 10:35:22 AM PST by RipSawyer ("Embed" Michael Moore with the 82nd airborne.)
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40 posted on 01/17/2005 11:01:55 AM PST by UnklGene
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