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To: Publius6961
Monumentally unremarkable speech made more forgettable by his need to continue the fiction, and implying once more that islam is just another religion of normal human beings

On the contrary: I would not be happy with a president who allowed himself to be manipulated by hotheads into insulting all members of one of the largest, fastest growing religions on the planet. I don't like Islam ("Submission") anymore than you do -- I think Islam is the antithesis of freedom and love. It wouldn't surprise me if Dubya thought so too. But it would be stupid and amateurish for him to say so to the world.

I thought the speech remarkable and monumental because Dubya threw down the guantlet to the rest of the world, declaring that in this new millenium, America will strive to make the enslaved, free. Instead of attacking and offending people on the basis of their religion -- as you would have him do, and which would be monumentally stupid -- Dubya spoke in terms of freedom and slavery. It was wise of Dubya: Morally, there is zero concern about offending those who advocate slavery.

72 posted on 01/20/2005 10:18:44 AM PST by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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To: Finny
I would not be happy with a president who allowed himself to be manipulated by hotheads into insulting all members of one of the largest, fastest growing religions on the planet.

If that is the only alternative that comes to mind, "unremarkable" does not begin to describe it.

81 posted on 01/20/2005 10:29:32 AM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen, ignorance and stupidity.)
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To: Finny

This speech will go down in History. I hope we can achieve its goals. To change the world is a big job, and impossible if the democrats fight us. It is only possible through unity.


82 posted on 01/20/2005 10:30:08 AM PST by Jay777 (Never met a wise man, if so it's a woman. Kurt Cobain)
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To: Finny
Good points. In fact, if one is upset about the reference to the Koran (because it isn't "Christian") then one could argue that America is a Christian nation---not Jewish---and therefore references to Judaism are equally invalid.

I think Bush is adopting the right mix of respecting Islam as a viable (and important) world religion while at the same time making it as plain as day that he doesn't subscribe to any of it.

83 posted on 01/20/2005 10:31:48 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news (there is no c in Amtrak and no truth in MSM news))
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To: Finny
On the contrary: I would not be happy with a president who allowed himself to be manipulated by hotheads into insulting all members of one of the largest, fastest growing religions on the planet. I don't like Islam ("Submission") anymore than you do -- I think Islam is the antithesis of freedom and love. It wouldn't surprise me if Dubya thought so too. But it would be stupid and amateurish for him to say so to the world.

I thought the speech remarkable and monumental because Dubya threw down the guantlet to the rest of the world, declaring that in this new millenium, America will strive to make the enslaved, free. Instead of attacking and offending people on the basis of their religion -- as you would have him do, and which would be monumentally stupid -- Dubya spoke in terms of freedom and slavery. It was wise of Dubya: Morally, there is zero concern about offending those who advocate slavery.

You reason wisely and speak/post your thoughts eloquently. So wonderful that I had to cut and paste your post in its entirety. Applause for Finny!

166 posted on 01/20/2005 3:46:48 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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