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The sticker didn’t stick (or did it?)
Answers in Genesis ^ | January 20, 2005 | Pam Shepard

Posted on 01/20/2005 10:22:21 AM PST by Tamar1973

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To: Blzbba

Creationist theory is much more logical than evolution.
To think all forms of reproducing life suddenly burst forward with male and female copies from a slime pond is a little fantastic isn't it? The odds of that happening even once is a kabillion zillion to one, but happening thousands of times over?
yea right.

evolutionists are the ones who need to be introduced to logic.


21 posted on 01/20/2005 10:59:14 AM PST by Nuzcruizer
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To: narby
Why is THIS so important that we must say in public school that God did it?

That's the point. The sticker in question never mentions G-d at all and yet atheists and other pro-evolution folks are threatened by it. If their beliefs are so indefensible that a simply disclaimer reminding people that evolution is a THEORY sends them into fits, that doesn't bode well for the strength of their ideas to carry on in the marketplace.

22 posted on 01/20/2005 10:59:40 AM PST by Tamar1973 (Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats-- PJ O'Rourke)
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To: Tamar1973

The "No-Goddists" are a hundred fold more dangerous to our freedoms than those they oppose.


23 posted on 01/20/2005 11:02:37 AM PST by DonnerT (Any job worth doing should be done to completion.)
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To: Nuzcruizer

"To think all forms of reproducing life suddenly burst forward with male and female copies from a slime pond is a little fantastic isn't it? "


No moreso than the bearded white guy on his magical throne waving his magic wand and 'Voila!' - everything's here!

Creationism is a mindless story for little kids and the extremely ignorant, superstitious people alive when the Old Testament was first written and that's about all.

If you want to teach it to kids, please do so at home or at church. Leave school to educating kids, not filling their minds with myth (unless it's taught in the Mythology101 class).


24 posted on 01/20/2005 11:04:04 AM PST by Blzbba (Kill Saddam NOW.)
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To: Nuzcruizer

> To think all forms of reproducing life suddenly burst forward with male and female copies from a slime pond is a little fantastic isn't it?

Yes, it is. That's why evolutionists don't think that way. Only Creationists think that way.


25 posted on 01/20/2005 11:04:54 AM PST by orionblamblam
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To: expat_panama
I don't know anything about this school board. But I do know one thing, they are playing into the hands of the left.

The day after the election the left was blaming the result on people "who think the earth was created in 6 days"

The left will be pushing this issue, attempting to either split the conservative movement, or at the least continue to paint them as uneducated dolts.

There are lots of important political fights to come in the next few years, such as supreme court justices. We don't need to be wasting our time with silly stuff like this.

26 posted on 01/20/2005 11:05:31 AM PST by narby (If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet.)
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To: DonnerT

And that's no theory either, it's a proven fact.

"No goddists" have a nasty habit of killing people by the millions when things don't work out their way.


27 posted on 01/20/2005 11:05:35 AM PST by Nuzcruizer
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To: Nuzcruizer

""No goddists" have a nasty habit of killing people by the millions when things don't work out their way."


Only after taking good notes of how the middle Age Christians did it!


28 posted on 01/20/2005 11:06:58 AM PST by Blzbba (Kill Saddam NOW.)
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To: DonnerT

> The "No-Goddists"

Yeah, all those nasty people who *refuse* to allow the Godly alternative theories on, say orbital mechanics! Rather than teaching just the scientific religion that says that planets follow mathematically definable orbits based on distance, mass and angular momentum, why don't they teach BOTH sides... that God is individually manhandling each planet around the Sun, and that at any moment, the planets could all go whizzing off into the universe?

[/sarcasm]


29 posted on 01/20/2005 11:08:06 AM PST by orionblamblam
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To: DonnerT
The "No-Goddists" are a hundred fold more dangerous to our freedoms than those they oppose.

Oh, please.

Will someone please answer my question as to why it's so d@mn important that schools say that God made the species, when they don't seem to give a rip about what else God must have done?

Why is this particular issue such a big deal?

If you think God did everything, then great. God created Evolution. Why is this a problem?

30 posted on 01/20/2005 11:08:51 AM PST by narby (If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet.)
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To: Tamar1973
The sticker in question never mentions G-d at all and yet atheists and other pro-evolution folks are threatened by it.

Then why are so adamant about it? Just a little deductive reasoning tells me that you want that sticker because it DOES IN FACT allow you to say that God zapped the universe into existence in 6 days.

Why won't one of you biblical litteralists explain why you dont' care how science class teaches about where snow comes from, but you get all hot and bothered about where science says species come from?

Genesis doesn't give that kind of detail, and it doesn't need to.

31 posted on 01/20/2005 11:14:32 AM PST by narby (If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet.)
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To: narby

Actually, the meaning of the word "day" is subject to question. The bible isn't literal is much of it's meaning.

What would a day be measured by before the solar system was created?
Going by the big bang theory, which actually fits biblicly,
at first our solar system was smaller. We know scientificly that the solar system is expanding, slowly, and is also slowing down. It stands to reason that when it was first CREATED, it's expansion was much more rapid.
This shoots down the "earth is a billion years old" theory.

The moon is as old as the earth. How come there isn't any life on it yet? Surely there should be at least some cosmic life producing bacteria on it, and it should have evolved by now.


32 posted on 01/20/2005 11:17:41 AM PST by Nuzcruizer
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To: narby

True, the school board's actions may be used by the loony-left press, although I doubt that any harm will come to anyone's political careers in Cobb County Ga. OTOH, we may as well just go about living our lives as we see fit, because the leftist press is going to whine no matter what we do.


33 posted on 01/20/2005 11:18:15 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: Nuzcruizer
"If you think God did everything, then great. God created Evolution. Why is this a problem?"

Because god wouldn't create anything flawed like evolution.

34 posted on 01/20/2005 11:19:19 AM PST by Nuzcruizer
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To: Tamar1973

> This sticker doesn't mention G-d,Buddha,Mohammad, Allah, Ganesh, etc. even once.

Why does the stickert not mention *ALL* scientific theories? Why separate evolution? The answer is simple and obvious... there is opposition to the teaching of evolution, and it's all religious in nature.

Far better would be a sticker that says "Be skeptical of all claims. The more fantastic the claim, the more fantastic the evidence should be to prove it."


35 posted on 01/20/2005 11:20:58 AM PST by orionblamblam
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To: Nuzcruizer

> We know scientificly that the solar system is expanding, slowly, and is also slowing down.

I'm curious. What do you mena by "the solar system is expanding" and "slowign down?" Define your terms, please.

> This shoots down the "earth is a billion years old" theory.

Indeed. It's much more like 4.5 billion than one billion.

> The moon is as old as the earth. How come there isn't any life on it yet?

Too small to maintain an atmosphere. The chemicals that seem to be needed for our type of life (the only type yet known), cannot exist on the Moon. Water, carbon dioxide, methane, hydrogen, nitrogen all boil away into space when on the Moon. The RMS speed of the molecules is too high a fraction of the Moon's escape velocity.


36 posted on 01/20/2005 11:25:01 AM PST by orionblamblam
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To: orionblamblam

Evolution thery is already in the book. therefore, there is no need to mention it on the sticker, except to say that it is only a theory, and there are theories.


37 posted on 01/20/2005 11:25:09 AM PST by Nuzcruizer
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To: Nuzcruizer

> Because god wouldn't create anything flawed like...

... Humans?


38 posted on 01/20/2005 11:25:31 AM PST by orionblamblam
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To: Nuzcruizer
No goddists" have a nasty habit of killing people by the millions when things don't work out their way.

Tell that to the people in Darfur, or the people of Jerusalem in 1099 who were all put to the sword by Christians. People who blindly believe in anything have a nasty habit of killing people by the millions if things don't go their way, it's not limited to the areligious.

39 posted on 01/20/2005 11:26:33 AM PST by ThinkPlease (Fortune Favors the Bold!)
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To: Nuzcruizer
Because god wouldn't create anything flawed like evolution.

As an engineer, I think Evolution is one of the greatest creations of all. We can't build a car that can reproduce itself, but God's Evolution invention can.

The Evolution invention can adapt as time goes by. But if my car doesn't have 4wd, it can't go lots of places. But give Evolution enough time, and short legs will get longer and stronger, and pretty soon my horse will be carrying me farther and higher than ever.

This Evolution invention can bring microbes that can eat oil, and new viruses that can deliver vaccines. Did you think that scientists "created" those life forms? Wrong! They merely provided the right environment, and they evolved all on their own.

Engineers like elegant inventions. And God's Evolution invention is one of the most elegant there is.

40 posted on 01/20/2005 11:28:07 AM PST by narby (If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet.)
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