Posted on 01/20/2005 10:22:21 AM PST by Tamar1973
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Good luck trying to introduce logic to Creationists...<<
Ad-Hominem attacks are more of a DU thing, aren't they?
For one thing, the sticker is simply false; evolutionary theory does not address origins. If the school board and its supporters are so ignorant that they don't even know what they are criticizing, that makes both them and their sticker unscientific.
>>There are many theories; only one is singled out for legal action by the school board.<<
I'm not trying to be cute here, but it really does come down to this:
The squeeky wheel gets the grease.
The abortionists operate in the political world, and have a quasi-religious belief that unborn babies aren't humans.
People who support Evolution just support the facts. Evolution happend. Deal with it.
"one of the main texts used to teach reading skills to children was the Bible."
Yeah, and slavery was legal and women can't vote.
Things change.
It's the truth that really hurts.
The only threads I can really sink my teeth into here are the ones where I spar/debate with the Christophobes.
"Ad-Hominem attacks are more of a DU thing, aren't they?"
They seem to be common in Evo/Crevo threads as well.
This is why the sticker is important. The scientific term "theory" doesn't have the same meaning as in other areas.
For example, Scientific Laws, Hypotheses, and Theories
"Lay people often misinterpret the language used by scientists. And for that reason, they sometimes draw the wrong conclusions as to what the scientific terms mean.
"Three such terms that are often used interchangeably are "scientific law," "hypothesis," and "theory."
"In layman’s terms, if something is said to be “just a theory,” it usually means that it is a mere guess, or is unproved. It might even lack credibility. But in scientific terms, a theory implies that something has been proven and is generally accepted as being true.
"Theory: A theory is more like a scientific law than a hypothesis. A theory is an explanation of a set of related observations or events based upon proven hypotheses and verified multiple times by detached groups of researchers. One scientist cannot create a theory; he can only create a hypothesis.
"In general, both a scientific theory and a scientific law are accepted to be true by the scientific community as a whole. Both are used to make predictions of events. Both are used to advance technology.
"The biggest difference between a law and a theory is that a theory is much more complex and dynamic. A law governs a single action, whereas a theory explains a whole series of related phenomena. "
Your comments about music theory or Islamic creation theory/myth are irrelevant to this discussion because the term "theory" has such a different meaning in the scientific field as opposed to the meaning regular people give it.
This is why making the distinction, in whatever form, between the theory of evolution and the law of gravity is important. It prevents scientists from committing "false advertising" against innocent, impressionable school children.
I also agree w/ expat_panama's comment, "I say that education is a local matter and we don't need some Clinton appointed federal judge deciding how a state approved curriculum should be presented. The book's author had a responsibility to explain a controversial subject in a manner that took local sensibilities into account. He failed. It can be done and there're others that can do it. In the mean time the board was right in adding to the presentation as they found necessary to fit local conditions."
Which is exactly my point. Look a bit beyond the litteral words of Genesis and Evolution fits in fine. It's only the flawed interpretations of some (not all) denominations that cause the problem.
>> Lots of kooks can't see the forrest for the holes. I guess you are one.<<
You constructed and then torched yourself a nice straw man there.
BTW, there is more evidence to support the "theory" that gravity pushes, rather than pulls. Just a thought...
>>The sticker is undoubtedly meant to give cover for those who want to completly ignore an entire branch of science for religious reasons<<
That is a very broad assumption.
It is also patently false.
It would have been more honest to put this on the sticker. What's there is not only false about the content it is false also "false advertising" as your link shows.
NO it is not a FACT, which is why it's called a THEORY. There is tons of science which blows holes through evolutional theory, and in fact point more to creationism. Much has changed since you have studied Darwin. Google it sometime.
The Raeliens have already made noise to do just that, and the Wicca folks. I think the Nation of Islam has some real interesting theories where an evil white guy is satan.
Sure, let's just bring them all in. They're all equally valid (sounds like old style leftist relativisim to me).
>>Things change.<<
Hence the sticker, changing the political stranglehold the Evolution True Believers have been attempting on the minds of the country's youth since Scopes.
This is most definitely a season of change.
Attempting to shoe-horn the theory of evoulution (which is no more scientific than a flat earth) into the text of Genesis is the real problem.
It's why the main-line Protestant churches are dying. Without a firm foundation in G-d's word, they are swayed by every liberal wind of doctrine to the point that they can nominate active homosexuals to positions of power (i.e.bishops) without a hint of conscience. They can have bishops like Episcopal Bishop Spong (who doesn't believe in the Virgin Birth or the Sacrificial nature of Yeshua's death on the cross) and not be excommunicated for heresy.
It's also why main-line churches are becoming havens of anti-semitism and moral eqivocation.
"This is most definitely a season of change."
Hopefully not a season of ignorance and belief in mythology as fact!
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