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Guardian ^ | 01/21/05 | Robin Cook

Posted on 01/20/2005 7:02:37 PM PST by Pikamax

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To: Pikamax

"Iraq was the flagship project...." So basically Bush is responsible for couple of Iraqis getting the stuffing beat out of them by a couple of limey hooligans in uniform? These pinkos are unbelievable!


21 posted on 01/20/2005 7:43:00 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: Pikamax
Note how the guardian neglects to mention millions of average Americans who donated and voted and who also adore the idea of an ownership society so they too can keep what they earn and choose for themselves what to do with their money.

The thousands of wealthy donors to the campaign to re-elect the president who turned up at those dinners adore this concept of an ownership society in which they get hefty tax cuts paid for by the poor who get their budgets cuts.

Illogical- taxed money is nothing more than confiscated property. Legalized theft, one might say. And how can poor people pay for anything when by definition they have nothing to pay with in the first place? That's like saying that a thief has to pay because someone didn't get ripped off. That's absurd... thieves don't have a right to be compensated for what they fail to steal. So why do welfare recipients have a right to be compensated for what they never earned eraily never gave? Quite simply, no one has a right to steal the property of others just because they are defined as poor; the wealth of the worker, investor or heir is not the property of the poor. And since when do the poor have budgets to cut? How did they come by money to budget if not by legalized theft?

22 posted on 01/20/2005 7:49:09 PM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: wolfpat
Is there some fax list that all the liberals get every day? e.g. todays buzzword is "hubris"

As a matter of fact there is. It originates in the offices of the DNC.

23 posted on 01/20/2005 7:52:08 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: elhombrelibre
"the disastrous military failure of its adventure in Iraq..." I wonder if this man will be singing the same toon when Iraqis turn out in large numbers to vote. I wonder if will matter when they begin to form their own government. And I wonder when the Iraqis are setting an example for the rest of the Arab world on how to live by the rule of law, protecting minorities, and threatening no other peoples if this Robin Cook will realize that this "disatrous military failure" was a success.

After the Iraqis hold successful elections, Robin Cook, The Guardian and the rest of the so-called Mainstream Media, will do the same thing they did after the successful elections in Afghanistan.

That is, ignore them...and go on to some other perceived failing.

What shallow ninnies...

24 posted on 01/20/2005 7:56:13 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Pikamax

Why this tone? I thought the Guardian wanted Bush to win. Isn't that why they engineered that clever letter writing campaign to Ohio?

Ah, I revell in their rage. I wonder when the next installment of the 62 Million Stupid Americans will hit the stands.


25 posted on 01/20/2005 7:59:00 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: Pikamax

We really should ignore the Guardian. It has nothing of substance to say and I am getting tired of them.


26 posted on 01/20/2005 8:02:06 PM PST by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: Wolfhound777

How would the Guardian defined success in Iraq?


27 posted on 01/20/2005 8:06:18 PM PST by paulr22043 (Guardian)
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To: paulr22043

"waging its own jihad on programmes against poverty on the grounds that the federal budget cannot afford welfare."

would that be a christian jihad on poverty or the war on poverty?


28 posted on 01/20/2005 8:08:15 PM PST by paulr22043 (Guardian)
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To: DTogo
Freedom and liberty are universal values.

No, actually they are not. There are a few in America that understand that freedom is not free. The Americans that gave their lives so that freedom might light a beacon of light around the world should be honored for their sacrifice, not scorned by this liberal crap. I will be deploying overseas again on Monday. When I go on active duty, I see the best of our country every day. May God bless America.

29 posted on 01/20/2005 8:14:03 PM PST by gcraig
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To: gcraig

I think your reply was mis-directed at me.


30 posted on 01/20/2005 8:18:31 PM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: paulr22043

The Guardian would have defined success in Iraq as this:

Headline:

Saddam Hussien unleashed chemical weapons againt the coalition troops today resulting in the deaths of over 200,000 British, American, and Australian troops!!

Subheadline: Overwhelming Joy is the reaction throughout the Middle East.


31 posted on 01/20/2005 8:54:01 PM PST by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: elhombrelibre

"the disastrous military failure of its adventure in Iraq..."

At least he place that disqualifier near the front. Lets me know I can ignore the rest and go read something else.


32 posted on 01/20/2005 9:29:51 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Soul Seeker

"Isn't that why they engineered that clever letter writing campaign to Ohio?"

What I don't understand - if the Left in the UK is so sophisticated and enlightened, how is it that their letter-writing campaign to Ohio resulted in the opposite of their intention? The county they targeted flipped from blue to red this year...


33 posted on 01/20/2005 9:32:09 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Pikamax
Robin Cook has no qualities of insight, perception or vision. He is like the sullen gatecrasher at a party who has been ejected for boorish behaviour, crying and whingeing at home because everyone else is having fun.
34 posted on 01/20/2005 9:33:23 PM PST by Red Sea Swimmer (Tisha5765Bav)
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To: Pikamax
The president and his speechwriters have yet to confront the tension between their rhetoric about freedom, which is universally popular, and their practice of projecting US firepower, which is resented in equal measure

The President is well aware of that tension, and confronts it as best he can, each and every day of his presidency. The man has goals, which he means to achieve, with perseverance and energy. The man is a Texan, down to his fingernails. Give me a break.

35 posted on 01/20/2005 9:36:47 PM PST by Torie
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To: Pikamax

Disaster in Iraq?! What is victory then? Did the leftists think that they were going to invent moderate Islam in Iraq? This is how elections are held in Islamic Nations. Look a Palestine, they were blowing each other up in the streets there too. To Jihadi, a voting block is C4.


36 posted on 01/20/2005 10:14:05 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Fenris6

Prideful. Arrogant. Elitist.

They believe their opinion is of great worth to Americans. They arrogantly assume they have the right to direct our votes, that there would be no consequence for direct interference. They would have done well to look at our history. Americans overwhelmingly push back hard when foreigners try to tell us what to do. That county did nothing more, nothing less, than follow our fore father's actions and kick the Brit's butts out.

Serves them right.


37 posted on 01/21/2005 5:32:12 AM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: DTogo

Sorry -- I was replying to the drivel in the article. Didn't mean to reply to you.


38 posted on 01/21/2005 7:49:56 AM PST by gcraig
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