Wanting to join the hyper-capitalistic WTO is a Chinese step in the right direction.
Posted on 01/21/2005 8:24:24 AM PST by Tolik
Edited on 01/21/2005 10:32:27 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
I have showed a list of events clearly aimed against the US.
I don't see any events you listed as being clearly aligning with the US.
Your list: of items is very disntinct from aligning with the US...
1)China invading Vietnam had nothing to do with the US...this is a long running border dispute.
2)breaking with USSR...again an intense rivalry and hatred that had nothing to do with aligning with US.
3)Open doors to Nixon...poppycock,,,this was payback for the US selling out Taiwan as a sovereign nation and recognizing China in the UN.
4)business with US and West...this is not done to align with the US or West but take advantage of it...their writing expressly prove this out and their WTO tactics and flaunting of WTO rules is very telling.
5)You failed to mention the most recent military arangements with Russia that Krauthammer depicts.
Please name me one policy showing the Chinese aligning or even leaning toward being a responsible international state.
The Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT), which entered into force in March 1970, seeks to inhibit the spread of nuclear weapons. Its 188 states-parties are classified in two categories: nuclear-weapon states (NWS)—consisting of the United States, Russia, China, France, and the United Kingdom—and non-nuclear-weapon states (NNWS).
Wanting to join the hyper-capitalistic WTO is a Chinese step in the right direction.
Choosing diplomacy, rather than force, to reclaim Hong Kong was a positive sign.
My friend you are really reaching but peace to somebody I disagree with.
Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT): Please, China is the larges shipper of WMD and WMD components in the world.
WTO: Their own writing depict this as a way to manipulate western countries and make a profit to further the gains of the Communist system they so love.
HongKong by peaceful means: If they had the power to take it militarily they would have. They didn't so they don't.
You are painting a one-sided picture. By sheer chance, you may wind up being correct, but at this point it is still too early tell if China will side with us or against us.
Dude I paint a one side picture because the picture is one sided.
We shall see who is correct. But knowing Chinese writings I'm afraid that it will be our grandchildren who will be the one's who find out. I hope we don't but them in too big a disadvantage while we profit from our Chinese relationships.
I share your hope. It's wise to be wary of the PLA.
They could break for us or against us.
I hate to question Krauthammer's opinion, but this may be less a case of Russia and China allying to confront American influence in the world, and more a case of Russia simply getting desperate to find friends in the world.
It's always good to question...I was wondering why France wasn't included.
They have been attempting to unfiy the EU against the US for several years now, often times with no honesty stake other than to control the US's percieved power in the world.
Well this did not happen over night. Yeltsin kicked off the acceleration of Sino-Russian ties way back around '94. That process sort of dawdled along. Then, Putin acclerated it even more, with the crux being the 2001 Treaty. From there, things have moved into a complete stand down at the border, and military cooperation.
Now, putting on hat, maybe made of tin foil or, maybe made of a more respectable substance .... there are some obscure white papers, as well as a few books, which make the case that even the "Sino-Soviet Split" was suspect. What would have been the rationale for fakery? The subsequent sequence of events may hold clues. After the "split" the Sino-US thaw conveniently arrived. This very thaw is what convinced us that, now we had a China card, we could negotiate more with the USSR, and could trust detente and arms control more. It also opened the door to the sequence of events that has led us to getting way intertwined, economically, with the PRC. Look at all the dynamics, both between us and the PRC, as well as within our own polity, which have resulted from that intertwining. 40 years ago there would have been no debate - Red China was an enemy. The fact that there is debate now, would at least make me wonder if the whole "opening" of the PRC did not have ulterior motives. Maybe getting a bit too deep into Sun Tzu gordian knots here, who knows. /hat off
It's gonna take a while and lot of blood is going to be shed but yes there is a chance.
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You're missing the point, it's not about China choosing the Terrorists or the U.S. China may well choose the US in that fight, but that would be no more than a temporary alliance a la US. USSR in WWII. China and the US are on a collison course, it is only a matter of time.
This is because China is well on its way to being the most powerful authoritarian nation in the world, and ultimately it and its alliance of autocratic regimes will find themselves at odds with the free world lead by the United States. These 2 incompatible systems cannot coexist.
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