Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: TigersEye
The media will paint you the way it wants to. IMO the corporate media is one of the biggest enemies, if not the biggest, of civilization.

absolutely, people like the late Neil Postman have chartered the decline of civilisation from the introduction of the telegraph wire till the TV. Take terrorism for example, it is little more than a media event. September 11th was designed to make the news - if the air time for your message to world costs too much, cause outrage and get on the news. There is absolutely no military or strategic benefit in attacking the trade center, blowing up a restaurant in Israel, blowing up a nightclub in Bali, attacking an embassy in Saudi; these are just publicity stunts. I made a point of not watching the footage of sept 11th, till this day I haven't seen what happened.

As for Muslims, you had better wake up and realize that the wacko fundamentalists are defining you all.

well, political Islam is a relatively new phenomenon for us, it was in part, supported by the West in pre-colonial times to bring down the Ottomans, and again to impede Soviet expansionism. But it has peaked and is in decline; traditionalist scholars have dealt comprehensively with the arguments of the literalists. In the mosques, the fundamentalist agenda is dying fast. It used to be common to find wahhabi literalists in mosques, but these days, they aren't around so many of them. We just see them on the news, they provide suitable sound bites.
288 posted on 01/26/2005 4:12:28 AM PST by Painter mo (all you need is a paint roller, a blithe spirit and a balmy night)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 286 | View Replies ]


To: Painter mo
Take terrorism for example, it is little more than a media event. September 11th was designed to make the news...

That is true but straight reporting of it is legitimate news. That is not where the media lies at fault.

There is absolutely no military or strategic benefit in attacking the trade center, ...

That is absolutely ridiculous. It cost this country billions of dollars and shut down our biggest financial center for days. Many of the biggest financial corp.'s in the country had their main offices there. It was a huge blow to our economy. That is specifically one of the ways that the MSM betrays us; they have ignored that and put the blame for a slow economy on Pres. Bush's policies. His policies weren't even instituted yet.

You also ignore the fact that the Pentagon was critically injured in the same attack and that either the White House or the Capitol Building was targeted too.

made a point of not watching the footage of sept 11th, till this day I haven't seen what happened.

Apparently you think that ignorance is bliss. The truth is that ignorance is the cause of all suffering.

...well, political Islam is a relatively new phenomenon for us, it was in part, supported by the West in pre-colonial times to bring down the Ottomans, and again to impede Soviet expansionism.

That may well be (if you ignore the life of the Prophet, the Crusades period, and the last 60 years in Isreal and the last thirty years with the U.S.)and the wisdom of using that hatred is obviously debatable. But it wasn't invented by the West.

But it has peaked and is in decline; ...

We (and you - if you consider yourself a Brit) are in a major war in Iraq, with 150,000 U.S. troops alone, fighting it for over a year now. We are still fighting it in Afghanistan and Pakistan. It is rampant in India, the Phillipines, Indonesia, Africa, there are numerous cells here in the U.S. and throughout Europe and it even has a strong hold in the rigidly controlled communist state of China. Not to mention Russia and former Soviet states. The numerous daily incidents that do make the news speak volumes of its vitality and determination not to mention the obvious support it must have to exist at all. And there is Isreal and the palestinians. The media isn't pimping those things it is suckered by the outrageous brutality of terrorist acts. The MSM hardly overplays terrorism. They don't even show the worst of 9/11 or replay it at all now. Quite the opposite, they downplay terrorism and make excuses for it.

You seem to be making excuses for terrorism too. Ethically speaking, you are validating and encouraging it. That is just the sort of thing I meant when I said that outrage or opposition within Islam is a blip. In fact it's worse, you confirm that "non-violent Muslims" are part of it. You accept it. You excuse it. You enable it.

Understand me, this is not my emotional response, I simply observe that Islam is becoming known, without complaint, as hateful, intolerant, brutal and insane. Correct or not, that conclusion will be met with what seems an appropriate response from "the West." Even European lefties will raise their torches and pitchforks after a couple of big "incidents" over there. I should say "especially" European lefties.

Are you at all familiar with the history of Europe? Or Britain? Do you think Brits, Scots and Irishmen are no longer capable of feeling national/cultural loyalty or self-preservation? Or perhaps you think we civilized Westerners have overcome such mundane errors of human thinking such as prejudice, mis-calculation and mis-communication?

If Islam doesn't speak for itself, loud and clear, against terrorism, the West will draw its conclusions from what it sees. You can tell what I see and I, as most FReepers, see much more than the two-dimensional picture the media portrays.

Right now the media is covering up and excusing terrorism as much as it can yet most who see nothing but the tube already think Islam is insane. But the media can change its spots in a minute. Its loyalty is to itself and it will do what makes it popular. That's where the money is.

Enjoy your youthful frivolities while you can. Life for everyone is on the brink of becoming a living hell.

289 posted on 01/27/2005 7:41:20 AM PST by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 288 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson