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PAKISTAN : ENRAGED MUSLIM CHOPS OFF CHRISTIAN’S ARM (Death threats force victim into hiding.)
CompassDirect.org ^ | January 21, 2005

Posted on 01/22/2005 1:42:16 AM PST by underlying

Lead story - Friday January 21, 2005

PAKISTAN : ENRAGED MUSLIM CHOPS OFF CHRISTIAN’S ARM

Death threats force victim into hiding.

Masih
Shahbaz Masih
January 21 (Compass)
-- A young Christian shopkeeper in Pakistan’s Punjab province had his arm chopped off by a Muslim customer who became enraged during a disagreement over a TV rental.

Shahbaz Masih, 22, was approached last November 28 by a customer wanting to rent a television set from his video shop in Talwandi, a little village near Chak Jhumra in Faisalabad district. When Masih declined the request, his customer, a 26-year-old butcher named Ahmed Ali, became furious, declaring the Christian had insulted him.

“How dare you, a poor Christian, refuse my request?” he reportedly shouted at Masih before he left the shop. Returning home, Ahmed Ali consulted with his father, Maqsood Ahmed, also a butcher. Shortly afterwards he went back searching for Masih, armed with a butcher’s ax.

Ahmed Ali forced his way into Masih’s house and attacked the shop owner, chopping off his left arm near the elbow. He left the house threatening the victim and his widowed mother, Munawar Bibi, with even more “dire consequences” for the alleged insult he had endured.

Later that same day, Masih was admitted for emergency treatment at the Allied Hospital in Faisalabad. After his discharge from the hospital four days later, the young man was forced to close his shop, take his mother and leave their village to go into hiding.

Suspect Arrested Only After Church Intervention

When Masih’s parish priest in Chak Jhumra reported the incident to Catholic Bishop of Faisalabad Joseph Coutts, the church sent a delegation, including advocate Khalil Tahrir, to seek legal action on the case.

As a result, a First Information Report was filed at the Chak Jhumra police station on November 30, demanding the arrest of Ahmed Ali as the “main accused” and his father as an accomplice in the crime.

Ali was apprehended that day by the Chak Jhumra police, who also recovered the ax used as the crime weapon. Ali was kept in police custody for four days before he was transferred to the Central Jail in Faisalabad.

When police finally located Ali’s father, Ahmed, he promptly obtained pre-arrest bail, with a hearing on his case now set for January 24. According to church sources, local police are under heavy pressure to establish the innocence of both Ahmed and his son.

No date has yet been set for court proceedings against Ali, who remains in prison on four charges of criminal conduct.

Threats Against Victim

Masih
'This is a difficult thing for this young man'
Meanwhile, Masih has been subjected to what the lawyer called “consecutive threats” from Ali and his supporters since the attack. Both he and his mother have been warned repeatedly that they will be killed if they “dare” to appear in court against Ali and his father.

“I hope that justice will be done,” said Tahrir, who is representing Masih without charge in the case. “Shahbaz is the only son of his widowed mother and is very, very poor,” the lawyer told Compass this week.

For the time being, the Faisalabad Catholic diocese has covered Masih’s hospital debts and medications, arranging safe lodging for him and his mother in a hidden location along with a minimal monthly sum for their living expenses.

“This is a very difficult thing for this young man,” commented his parish priest, Fr. Yousaf Riaz, “to face this loss for the rest of his life.” But a prosthesis fitted to Masih’s shoulder would cost approximately $2,000 in Pakistan, where the annual per capita income is less than $600.

Chronic Government Inaction

According to the current U.S. State Department report on religious freedom in Pakistan, “The lack of an adequate government response contribute[s] to an atmosphere of impunity for acts of violence and intimidation against religious minorities.” Christians represent an estimated three to four percent of the predominantly Muslim population.




TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: believers; christians; church; islam; moongod; muslims; nukemecca; pakistan; persecutedchurch; persecution; punjab; punjabi; religionofpeace; rop
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To: Cronos

Sounds like a plan to me. On the other hand, I suppose we shouldn't expect too much from Pakistan or Washington.


21 posted on 01/27/2005 5:57:25 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Nuke the Cube!)
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To: underlying
Welcome to the Religion of Peace
</sarcasm>

22 posted on 01/27/2005 5:58:09 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Cronos

7. All Arabic copies of the Koran have the mysterious figure 786 imprinted on them. No Arabic scholar has been able to determine the choice of this particular number as divine. It is an established fact that Muhammad was illiterate therefore it is obvious that he would not be able to differentiate numbers from letters. This "magical" number is none other than the Vedic holy letter "OM" written in Sanskrit. Anyone who knows Sanskrit can try reading the symbol for "OM" backwards in the Arabic way and magically the numbers 786 will appear! Muslims in their ignorance simply do not realise that this special number is nothing more than the holiest of Vedic symbols misread.

There are many such instances where the symbols and rituals of Vedic culture were completely distorted and falsified by Muhammad in his bid to "create" his brand new religion. However in his haste to deceive and because of his ignorance and illiteracy, thousands of Vedic symbols still remain. Although they have been distorted beyond imagination, they still remain as solemn reminders of Arabia's glorious Vedic past. They can never be supressed.
In fact the rise of Islam put a full stop to all the previous knowledge of Arabia. The imperialistic message of Islam diverted all energies into raiding, looting and destruction. The incentive to learn and preserve the Vedic wisdom that had thrived in Arabia for so many centuries, was wiped out by the brutal pressure of Islam. Making easy money through loot and massacre was far more appealing than upholding the tenets of ancient knowledge. Gone were the schools, teachers, libraries, poets, artists, philosophers and scholars that had littered the Vedic landscape of Arabia like stars. Everyone had to become a raider if not from choice then for the sake of surviving the absolute intolerance of dissenters, that Islam preached. Thus was the light of learning extinguished in Arabia. All that remained was the Koran, the Kalma and the murderous hatred of anything Non-Muslim.

In my next article I will explore how the Arabs fought to keep the integrity and pride of their Vedic culture alive in the face of the violent, unjust and murderous destruction caused by the followers of Islam.

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:aKdiTMr3cW0J:avalon.wz.cz/Tajemno,energie/Vedicarabia2.htm+786++koran&hl=en


23 posted on 01/27/2005 5:58:25 PM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: reagan_fanatic

Yes ... was sarcasm and fun


24 posted on 01/27/2005 5:59:33 PM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: Texas_Jarhead

Nope -- I was agreeing with you -- I could make out from your post that you too think that the problem is with the cult alone.


25 posted on 01/27/2005 6:06:38 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: dennisw

interesting


26 posted on 01/27/2005 6:07:50 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Cronos

The man who did that(chopped of the guy's arm) should get the "chipper" treatment.(like in fargo).


27 posted on 01/27/2005 6:09:17 PM PST by Rca2000 (Helping to swing the swing state of Ohio to "W")
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To: Cronos
Sorry about jumpin down your throat but I am so sick of aholes turning issues is to some kind of racial argument. I actually had a FReeper post some comments about my tag line relating to racial identity. Race, of course, has nothing to do with my tag line.
28 posted on 01/27/2005 6:16:21 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead (I believe in American Exceptionalism! Do you?)
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To: papertyger

It's not jim crow --- they're killing people of every race --- and this guy is their same race. Jim crow was about real racism --- but muslims mean for everyone to be forced into submission to them.


29 posted on 01/27/2005 6:45:56 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Cronos

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Battle_of_Panipat

Anyone interested in History should read this link. This puts everything into context.


30 posted on 01/27/2005 6:50:11 PM PST by Arjun (Skepticism is good. It keeps you alive.)
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To: Texas_Jarhead

Good grief, Tex. Can't you see the sarcasm in his post? He's clearly on your side. Look again.





The enemy is not EVERY Muslim individual.
THE ENEMY IS ISLAM.
THE ENEMY IS THE KORAN.
THE ENEMY IS THE HADITH.
THE ENEMY IS SHARIAH.

These things all call for your forced submission to Islam.
These things call for the destruction of your church.
These things all call for the destruction of the Constitution.
These things all call for the destruction of America.
These things all call for the destruction of democracy and freedom around the globe.

AND THERE IS NO TELLING WHEN THIS EVIL "RELIGION" WILL METASTACIZE IN THE MIND OF ANY ONE OF ITS "MODERATE" FOLLOWERS, TO THE DESTRUCTION OF MORE INNOCENT AMERICANS!

To defend this avowed enemy of America is TREASON!


31 posted on 01/27/2005 9:35:02 PM PST by broadsword (It was far beyond anything seen here before!)
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To: underlying
Sickening.

Will Islam's "contribution" to mankind never cease?

32 posted on 01/27/2005 9:39:53 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: FITZ
It's not jim crow --- they're killing people of every race --- and this guy is their same race. Jim crow was about real racism --- but muslims mean for everyone to be forced into submission to them.

Fitz, Fitz, Fitz, are you having an anal retentive day? It's my metaphor, go get your own.

This is clearly a case of atavistic bigotry, not a clash of religious sensabilities. Furthermore, it has the defacto color of law, or did you not notice the heroic efforts that had to be employed just to get a pro forma measure of enforcement out of the local cops? This muslim felt perfectly justified in maiming the uppity Christian for the cardinal sin of annoying his august self.

If you can't see the principles of "jim crow" here, you need new glasses, or you're a far less insightful fellow than I've previously given you credit for being.

This is also why dhimmitude is utterly unacceptable. If this is muslim "tolerance" for "people of the book," I'll take Crusade every time, and enjoy it.

33 posted on 01/27/2005 11:44:45 PM PST by papertyger (Nothing is so "black and white" it can't be made gray...if you "spin" it hard enough.)
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To: dennisw

Sorry to bust your bubble, but JESUS CHRIST was the most and ONLY, perfect man who ever lived. (I know, I am just a right-winged, fanatic, racist, blah..blah..blah.. Part of the Christian right).

AND PROUD OF IT!!!!!


34 posted on 01/28/2005 1:56:30 AM PST by Rca2000 (Helping to swing the swing state of Ohio to "W")
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To: underlying

Coming soon to France.


35 posted on 01/28/2005 2:00:04 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Rca2000

My post was sarcastic but is how Muslims think. They are commanded by Koran and hadith to copy the life Muhammad lived.


36 posted on 01/28/2005 2:14:46 AM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: papertyger

I was just commenting that with muslims it's not race that makes them hate --- their religion commands them to bring all people under submission to islam or else slaughter them.


37 posted on 01/28/2005 6:08:57 AM PST by FITZ
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To: Cronos
THe scumbag "prophet" married her when he was 60. I've always wondered -- mooselimbs revere the number 786 because it reflects Koranic verses, perhaps Johm of Patmos read the number wrong? Instead of 666 it was 786. because the rest of revelations seems to point to a false prophet who resembles mad mo

Incorrect. There are 6666 verses in thr Qu'ran.

It's almost as if Satan is bragging about it.

39 posted on 02/05/2005 5:50:54 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999!)
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To: underlying

7th Century, Tribal, Neaderthal Bump.


40 posted on 02/05/2005 5:53:23 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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