Real men don't whine.
Posted on 01/22/2005 5:31:27 AM PST by pickrell
Outstanding. Peggy seems to have followed Mo Dowdie down the path of bitterness with snide, ill-thought through commentary. Of course, she has found legions of new fans at the MSM, DU, and moveon.org - hopefully this will provide some consolation for her loss of moral clarity and mental acuity.
I wonder what she thinks of the Hillary "God God God God God God God God" speech?
I have a feeling we are going to see the two parties trying to out-God each other up through 2008.
Perhaps she's interviewing for a position as John McCain's speechwriter for his upcoming presidential campaign. LOL
Real men don't whine.
I'm hoping Ms Noonan was just having a "bad day" when she wrote yesterday's piece.
She did write that wonderful narration for "The Pitch" (the short film, narrated by Fred Thompson that was shown at the Republican convention right before GWB gave his acceptance speech.)
I think you did a darn good job of it. At a time when we really do have nothing to fear but fear itself, why has Ms. Noonan lost her courage?
Perhaps we need to lose a city like Boston before he'll get the message?
Dear Peggy:
Here's a quote from another God drenched American Document:
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their DUTY, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
Sorry if this is over the top, pie-in-the-sky nonsense.
I would only add that Ms. Noonan is now enjoying the predictable notoriety that follows a criticism of the right from the right. I would like to believe that this phenomenon was not calculated by Ms. Noonan in the formulation of her criticism.
I do hope you emailed this to Ms. Noonan
I am surprised by Noonan's article. She is, however, an excellent writer and she is not a hypocrite. She may have had problems with Bush's speech but I think that she means well. Noonan falls in the wing of the GOP that believes that since we won, we have to be "nice" with the Dems and not shove God into their throats. I disagree, now that we won, we should do everything to push our agenda even if it means shoving it to the Dems and the irrational Left.
I had a similar reaction when I read Peggy's article, which as after I had already seen her on cable news exclaiming what a great and momentous speech it had been. I wondered what had caused her to change her attitude. Then I heard almost all of the Talking Heads, even those on the Right, declaring President Bush's Naive grandiosity, and his poor oratorical skills.
I just keep remembering how Bush 41 was constantly criticized for lacking the "Vision Thing." Now W is being hammered for having the Vision Thing.
I expect to see a separation between the Republicans who believe that economic policy should dominate and those who believe social policy should dominate.
Some of us understand they are intertwined.
The country club Republicans are a bit steamed that Bush talked about divine providence and the right of all humans to experience freedom instead of tax cuts and how to grow the economy.
I'd second that feeling, and add that the DemoKKKrats, especially, are already talking about religion a lot more than they did a year ago.
Biden's story , during Condi's hearing, about the boy who went to confession was just the icing on the cake.
The thing we need to remember with the Dems is that all of their God talk is mostly phony, empty marketing ploy--insincere. They think those of us in Jesus Land are too stupid to know the difference. They sure are starting early though.
Odd though, considering she was the one who helped add religion to Reagan's speeches.
Peg tells us her answer: yes, it is possible to mention God too much. We must then pose Perky Peg another question..."how much is too much? in a 15 minute speech is it 10 times, 20 times, 30 times, how many times, Peg?
Or is it not the quantity of times God is mentioned, but rather the quality of His mention? Is it wrong to describe God as the King of the Universe, as Bush did? Is it wrong to give God credit for His eternal goodness, as Bush did? Should we limit the quality of credit we God to a yardstick of what our physical senses can actually measure, and therefore shut up about eternity and universal stuff?
So Peg, is what bothers you the number of times Bush gives God credit, or is what bothers you the degree of which Bush give God credit??
perky Peg needs to explain herself
This is just beautifully written and expresses the thoughts of so many of us here.
I love Peggy Noonan. I've read her books, read her articles and believe she is a true conservative. I know her faith is genuine. Why she wrote what she did, is puzzling and astounding to me.
This article is the perfect response. Thank you for writing it. Let's not throw Peggy over the edge. Let's engage her, let's ask her to explain what she wrote and why. She's a dear heart, and I want to know her thoughts.
Peg - please explain.
Pick - so very well said.
Yes, her take on the speech did disappoint me. However, she was honest in her take and many nurturing folks may have been taken aback by it. On the other hand, apparently, many President before have alluded to the same dream for the oppressed.
The difference and frightening thing to some, is this President tends to act upon what he says - and for my part, such actions are better now than later.
Hot dog, for the next four years maybe we can expect real action for "good" rather than hollow proclamations.
To be directly involved in these changes, as civilians, in government service, or the U.S. military must be a real high.
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