[seacapn]

It just goes to show - with extensive quick-draw practice, you might even be able to outgun even a trained Marine (or crazed drug addict for that matter). People shouldn't underestimate the role a firearm can play in their own safety IF they practice and practice and practice.

[expatpat]

I'll bet the ex-cop smelled trouble as soon as Williams came in the store, and had his hand on his sidearm before Williams started pulling his out.

[mad_as_he$$]

Practice is good - you need to go to automatic. But I have studied shootouts for many years going back to the legends of the Old West. Deliberate movements go further than anything IMHO. Wyatt Earp (think what you will of him) was in many a shootouts and never even nicked. Most witness reports say he drew his weapon and took deliberate aim, often after the other guy was already shooting. His legend also worked for him.

In the one shootout I was in at a convenience store the perp had killed the clerk and was waving his gun around movie style. I drew my brother's 44 mag from the glove box of the car and took aim and shot the dirt bag. Missed dead center by 4 inches and did not have time for second shot since he went right down. 16 year old kid with a rap sheet three inches deep. Cops wanted to know why I didn't finish him off. Told them angle was wrong and they all said "Not a problem." My action was very deliberate - at that time by accident more than anything. My brain kept screaming "WTF" if you know what I mean. Dirtbag killed a clerk who had a family and was a friend of mine for $40 and an armload of smokes.

In retrospect I tell everyone who wants to carry that you had better have THE WILL to shoot. It is really embarrassing to have your gun taken away and be shot with it. IF you have even a small thought of "Could I pull the trigger?" then don't carry.