Posted on 01/23/2005 8:58:36 AM PST by Lindykim
The Christian Underground http://www.christian-underground.com READ IT - LEARN FROM IT - PRAY OVER IT - SHARE IT --- Witches Kill Baby January 21, 2005
Little girl had 40 puncture wounds and a snapped neck Pagan tattoos may match baby girl's wounds Photos of couple's religious markings studied in probe of toddler's death
Prosecutors have obtained photographs of a Springfield Township couple's neopagan tattoos in an effort to match the markings to puncture wounds on the woman's slain year-old daughter. Daniel Duffield and Vanessa McGlumphy are charged in connection with the neck-snapping death of McGlumphy's 13-month-old daughter Jacqueline Mae Cooper.
Aside from the fatal neck injury, the toddler's body was also riddled with more than 40 puncture wounds, 12 broken ribs and a lacerated liver. Prosecutors last week received permission from Summit County Common Pleas Judge Marvin Shapiro to photograph the couple to determine whether their religious tattoos match puncture wounds that appear on the toddler's feet.
According to court records, the child had puncture wounds on her foot in the shape of a Wicca or Celtic symbol.
In addition, prosecutors say that Duffield and McGlumphy told investigators that they wanted to raise the girl in their Wiccan faith, an earth-based religion sometimes called ``The Craft´´ or the ``The Craft of the Wise.´´
Duffield told investigators that he placed the Wiccan pentacle symbol on the girl's feet, prosecutors say. Photos of the couple's markings were taken last week at the Summit County Jail, where the two are being held. Duffield's tattoos include a skull and dagger, an anarchy symbol, a demon and a Celtic cross, prosecutors say. McGlumphy's include a goat head, Medusa and a she-devil.
Prosecutors say a needle containing the child's DNA was found near her crib around the time of her death. The child's puncture wounds, prosecutors contend, are evidence of abuse at the hands of Duffield and proof that McGlumphy ignored the girl's injuries. ``For (McGlumphy), Wicca is nothing but an appreciation and love of nature,´´ said defense lawyer Tom Adgate, who represents the woman. Adgate said his client ``didn´t notice -- and she didn´t condone´´ -- the symbol puncture wounds. ``And she doesn´t know when it was done.´´
Duffield's lawyers could not be reached for comment. Duffield, 32, is charged with murder, involuntary manslaughter, child endangering and felonious assault involving puncturing the girl's feet and face. McGlumphy, 25, is charged with involuntary manslaughter and child endangering. Each has pleaded not guilty.
Both are scheduled for trial Monday, but Duffield has asked for a delay to allow his lawyers more time to prepare for trial. Shapiro is expected to rule on the request in a hearing.
The toddler died Oct. 6 from either a dislocation at the top of the spine -- from blunt impact to the head -- or a ``hyperextension/hyperflexion´´ of the neck, according to autopsy reports.
On Tuesday, a juvenile court judge granted temporary custody of the girl's twin sister to McGlumphy's father. The arrangement was agreed to by the child's biological father.
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A wise old man once told me 'I want to die with the same number of holes in me I was born with!'
"Reasoned" thought, unconstrained by moral authority can just as well be amoral as moral. By itself, it has no moral ethics, nor does it know about them. So that brings me back to my question: What or whose morality will be the basis for our gov't's 'reasoned thought'?
Carolyn
snip...BTW, what does this perpetual discussion of "morals" have to do with whether or not it is advisable for the government to regulate religion, ban some of them, elevate others etc. in full violation of the Constitution?
Morals, but more specifically Christianities particular sort, have everything to do with it. First, not one person on the face of this earth can reason without recourse to transcendant moral law. The "Tao," as CS Lewis termed it. For instance, implied within your very questions is this: "Thou shalt not impose religious moral values"
Why not? "To do so is a violation of the Golden Rule: do unto others as you would have them do unto you." The implication in your responses with regard to this thread is moral values based and comes straight from transcendant moral law. You're accusing Christians of not "respecting" you......a violation of the Golden Rule.
What you want: that Christian moral precepts not be imposed upon anyone in America will only be achieved at the expense of our Constitutional Republic. And if Christian-based transcendant moral laws are eradicated, another version thereof will replace them.
The bloodiest, most inhumane political systems in the world's history were likewise founded upon transcendant moral law......a dangerously twisted, upside-down version, but transcendant moral laws all the same.
So Long Cut.....whose version do you want? Because you WILL LIVE under a version. There is no escaping it.
Why is it invalid? I know about 4-5 currently serving Wiccans in my little corner of the Navy. I've known many others in my time in. I also know that there are many others serving in other services. If any were wounded or injured in combat, why would they be denied the comfort of their choice?
a wonderful book, highly recommended...
I think that's Hitlery's branch within the DemoRat Party...
Summit County, Ohio near Akron.
Worshippers of a religion that whose "Allah" was a pedophile, and of whom commands it's follows to "kill the infidel" are suspect for good reason.
Please do tell me why YOU disagree with my assessemt. I'm curious to say the least.
Or rather, is it acceptable practice to you to have a Satanic chaplain "comfort" his "flock" by reading the 'Black Bible' or "praying" to a goat head; Or allowing a Santerian serviceman "comfort" by slaughtering a live chicken and setting up the voodoo dolls and candles?
And you never answered my theoretical question:
"Do you suppose -- were Satanists or Muslim ever to become the dominant political force in the United States of America -- our "freedom to worship" and "civil rights" would exist as they do today?"
So Long Cut.....whose version do you want? Because you WILL LIVE under a version. There is no escaping it."
Interesting conundrum for Mr. Long Cut indeed...
So long as the conduct is not in and of itself a violation of regulations or the UCMJ (and the Santiera stuff might be) or harmful to good order and discipline, I have no problem whatsoever with it. As I have been saying, just because a religious practice strikes you as wrong or silly is not sufficient reason to ban or proscribe it. Personally, a Sailor in my unit can worship anything he wants, so long as he follows orders and does his job faithfully.
You also have to have some perspective...extremely few Satanists or Santierists actually are of a mindset to volunteer for the military. Allocation of chaplains is based on the numbers; if there are enough to constitute a signifigant number, such chaplains are provided.
As for your question, it is too hypothetical to warrant a response. Were such the case, however, the Constitution would still be the law of the land until it was changed or abolished. It would still need to be followed. Were it not, the Second Amendment would come into play.
Our Constitutional Republic will suffer if the Constitution is followed, and minority rights protected?
However, I do appreciate your response and perspective.
"Basically it means that the Lord will come again, and we would like Him to do it quite soon."
What happens after that?
sni..."The bloodiest, most inhumane political systems in the world's history were likewise founded upon transcendant moral law......a dangerously twisted, upside-down version, but transcendant moral laws all the same.
So Long Cut.....whose version do you want? Because you WILL LIVE under a version. There is no escaping it."
Liberator...Interesting conundrum for Mr. Long Cut indeed...
Long Cut Responds.....Our Constitutional Republic will suffer if the Constitution is followed, and minority rights protected?
LK....You're quibbling. Please answer my question.
And here is another question you've chosen to avoid responding to Long Cut: "Reasoned" thought, unconstrained by moral authority can just as well be amoral as moral. By itself, it has no moral ethics, nor does it know about them. So that brings me back to my question: What or whose morality will be the basis for our gov't's 'reasoned thought'?
Response???
Buddhism? In that list?
Give it a rest.
Of course it's in that list.....it BELONGS there. Why? Because it's a perfect example of a religion created by man to serve the purposes of the "few" at the expense of the 'many".
You obviously are completely ignorant of the tenets of Buddhism.
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