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Dirty War (on HBO NOW)

Posted on 01/24/2005 6:39:16 PM PST by GottaLuvAkitas1

In could not find this in a search. If you have not heard of this HBO Special, it is about a dirty bomb, and what could happen.

On a personal note, I find this show very scary, and eye opening to say the least.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dirtybomb; dirtywar
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1 posted on 01/24/2005 6:39:19 PM PST by GottaLuvAkitas1
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To: GottaLuvAkitas1

There was a dirty bomb scare here in Boston last week and no one has come out to say they have concrete proof it was going to happen, in fact one of the four chinese nationals that was suspected of coming to Boston was found to be in jail and had been in jail since November, rumors are circulating that this dirty bomb scare was done to hype up this HBO show - - things that make you go hmmmmmmm.


2 posted on 01/24/2005 6:42:54 PM PST by rockabyebaby (What goes around, comes around!)
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It's funny how there's never any followup to these kinds of stories. Thanks for the info.


3 posted on 01/24/2005 6:44:32 PM PST by skip_intro
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To: GottaLuvAkitas1

Akitas scare me.


4 posted on 01/24/2005 6:44:37 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: rockabyebaby

If so that was a bad bad move.

Are you watching it? I am shaking and nothing, but the planning has happened yet.

I wonder just how prepared we really are.


5 posted on 01/24/2005 6:45:55 PM PST by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Ronald Reagan is the TRUE "Father Of Our Country".)
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To: monkeywrench

"Akitas scare me."

If you are not in their families they should scar you. LOL


6 posted on 01/24/2005 6:47:06 PM PST by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Ronald Reagan is the TRUE "Father Of Our Country".)
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To: rockabyebaby
...There was a dirty bomb scare here in Boston last week ...

Was there any kind of instruction to the populace on what to do if one were detonated?

Any instructions on how to prepare?

It gripes my butt that the so-called Homeland Security department hasn't organized some kind of local "civil defense" type of preparedness program for people.

Basically all we get from the government is "go shopping".

7 posted on 01/24/2005 6:51:22 PM PST by FReepaholic (Proud FReeper since 1998. Proud monthly donor.)
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To: tscislaw

You got that right!


8 posted on 01/24/2005 6:53:56 PM PST by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Ronald Reagan is the TRUE "Father Of Our Country".)
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To: GottaLuvAkitas1

It's probably severely overhyped from what you describe.

Dirty Bombs are based on the rabid fear of radiation. The greatest threat from a dirty bomb is the panic itself.

Like chemical weapons, any time and money a terrorist spends on dirty bombs instead of high explosives is time that terrorist is wasting.


9 posted on 01/24/2005 6:54:58 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: GottaLuvAkitas1

LOL! A man I knew bred them. Scarey dogs...


10 posted on 01/24/2005 6:55:35 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: tscislaw

NO instruction, except, live your life as usual and if you see anything suspicious, call 911. Yep, that'll save a whole lot of lives!


11 posted on 01/24/2005 6:56:00 PM PST by rockabyebaby (What goes around, comes around!)
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To: GottaLuvAkitas1

Shoot....I wanted to see this; I'm going to watch it when it comes on again at midnight.

Without telling me anything, how is it so far?


12 posted on 01/24/2005 6:58:05 PM PST by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- and a Bush Republican!!!!)
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To: Strategerist

"It's probably severely overhyped from what you describe."

The way the terrorists prepared, how the Gov. covered their tourism $'s, how the CELLS work and things like that is what has me most shaken.

The bomb just went off.


13 posted on 01/24/2005 6:59:18 PM PST by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Ronald Reagan is the TRUE "Father Of Our Country".)
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To: tscislaw
It gripes my butt that the so-called Homeland Security department hasn't organized some kind of local "civil defense" type of preparedness program for people.

Oh, but Bush tried to do that; I remember the threads well; the "real, true" conservatives on this site openly mocked at sneered at any and all plans.

14 posted on 01/24/2005 7:00:21 PM PST by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- and a Bush Republican!!!!)
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"Without telling me anything, how is it so far?"

Eye opening and quite scarry. Just get past the 1st 10 minutes and it gets good.


15 posted on 01/24/2005 7:01:06 PM PST by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Ronald Reagan is the TRUE "Father Of Our Country".)
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To: Howlin

"Oh, but Bush tried to do that; I remember the threads well; the "real, true" conservatives on this site openly mocked at sneered at any and all plans."

I guess I missed that day on FR. Anyhow I hope Bush tries again because I will support any and all advice.


16 posted on 01/24/2005 7:04:15 PM PST by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Ronald Reagan is the TRUE "Father Of Our Country".)
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To: Howlin

Hey, did you ever find out why your Carson thread was pulled?


17 posted on 01/24/2005 7:09:56 PM PST by FReepaholic (Proud FReeper since 1998. Proud monthly donor.)
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To: tscislaw

Nope......what happened?


18 posted on 01/24/2005 7:13:18 PM PST by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- and a Bush Republican!!!!)
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To: GottaLuvAkitas1

If There is a Biological Threat

Unlike an explosion, a biological attack may or may not be immediately obvious. While it is possible that you will see signs of a biological attack, as was sometimes the case with the anthrax mailings, it is perhaps more likely that local health care workers will report a pattern of unusual illness or there will be a wave of sick people seeking emergency medical attention. You will probably learn of the danger through an emergency radio or TV broadcast, or some other signal used in your community. You might get a telephone call or emergency response workers may come to your door.

In the event of a biological attack, public health officials may not immediately be able to provide information on what you should do. It will take time to determine exactly what the illness is, how it should be treated, and who is in danger. However, you should watch TV, listen to the radio, or check the Internet for official news including the following:

Are you in the group or area authorities consider in danger?
What are the signs and symptoms of the disease?
Are medications or vaccines being distributed?
Where? Who should get them?
Where should you seek emergency medical care if you become sick?
During a declared biological emergency:

If a family member becomes sick, it is important to be suspicious.
Do not assume, however, that you should go to a hospital emergency room or that any illness is the result of the biological attack. Symptoms of many common illnesses may overlap.
Use common sense, practice good hygiene and cleanliness to avoid spreading germs, and seek medical advice.
Consider if you are in the group or area authorities believe to be in danger.
If your symptoms match those described and you are in the group considered at risk, immediately seek emergency medical attention.
If you are potentially exposed:

Follow instructions of doctors and other public health officials.
If the disease is contagious expect to receive medical evaluation and treatment. You may be advised to stay away from others or even deliberately quarantined.
For non-contagious diseases, expect to receive medical evaluation and treatment.
If you become aware of an unusual and suspicious substance nearby:

Quickly get away.
Protect yourself. Cover your mouth and nose with layers of fabric that can filter the air but still allow breathing. Examples include two to three layers of cotton such as a t-shirt, handkerchief or towel. Otherwise, several layers of tissue or paper towels may help.
Wash with soap and water.
Contact authorities.
Watch TV, listen to the radio, or check the Internet for official news and information including what the signs and symptoms of the disease are, if medications or vaccinations are being distributed and where you should seek medical attention if you become sick.
If you become sick seek emergency medical attention.




Possible Signs of Chemical Threat

Many people suffering from watery eyes, twitching, choking, having trouble breathing or losing coordination.
Many sick or dead birds, fish or small animals are also cause for suspicion.


If You See Signs of Chemical Attack: Find Clean Air Quickly


Quickly try to define the impacted area or where the chemical is coming from, if possible.
Take immediate action to get away.
If the chemical is inside a building where you are, get out of the building without passing through the contaminated area, if possible.
If you can't get out of the building or find clean air without passing through the area where you see signs of a chemical attack, it may be better to move as far away as possible and "shelter-in-place."
If you are outside, quickly decide what is the fastest way to find clean air. Consider if you can get out of the area or if you should go inside the closest building and "shelter-in-place."


If You Think You Have Been Exposed to a Chemical


If your eyes are watering, your skin is stinging, and you are having trouble breathing, you may have been exposed to a chemical.


If you think you may have been exposed to a chemical, strip immediately and wash.
Look for a hose, fountain, or any source of water, and wash with soap if possible, being sure not to scrub the chemical into your skin.
Seek emergency medical attention.


19 posted on 01/24/2005 7:18:53 PM PST by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Ronald Reagan is the TRUE "Father Of Our Country".)
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To: GottaLuvAkitas1

"dirty bomb"

radiation threat, commonly referred to as a "dirty bomb" or "radiological dispersion device (RDD)", is the use of common explosives to spread radioactive materials over a targeted area. It is not a nuclear blast. The force of the explosion and radioactive contamination will be more localized. While the blast will be immediately obvious, the presence of radiation will not be clearly defined until trained personnel with specialized equipment are on the scene. As with any radiation, you want to try to limit exposure. It is important to avoid breathing radiological dust that may be released in the air.

If There is a Radiation Threat or "Dirty Bomb"

If you are outside and there is an explosion or authorities warn of a radiation release nearby, cover your nose and mouth and quickly go inside a building that has not been damaged. If you are already inside check to see if your building has been damaged. If your building is stable, stay where you are.

Close windows and doors; turn off air conditioners, heaters or other ventilation systems.
If you are inside and there is an explosion near where you are or you are warned of a radiation release inside, cover nose and mouth and go outside immediately. Look for a building or other shelter that has not been damaged and quickly get inside.

Once you are inside, close windows and doors; turn off air conditioners, heaters or other ventilation systems.
If you think you have been exposed to radiation, take off your clothes and wash as soon as possible.
Stay where you are, watch TV, listen to the radio, or check the Internet for official news as it becomes available.
Remember: To limit the amount of radiation you are exposed to, think about shielding, distance and time.


Shielding:
If you have a thick shield between yourself and the radioactive materials more of the radiation will be absorbed, and you will be exposed to less.
Distance: The farther away you are away from the blast and the fallout the lower your exposure.
Time: Minimizing time spent exposed will also reduce your risk.


As with any emergency, local authorities may not be able to immediately provide information on what is happening and what you should do. However, you should watch TV, listen to the radio, or check the Internet often for official news and information as it becomes available.


20 posted on 01/24/2005 7:20:16 PM PST by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Ronald Reagan is the TRUE "Father Of Our Country".)
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