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Clinton Seeking Shared Ground Over Abortions
NYtimes ^ | 01/25/05 | PATRICK D. HEALY

Posted on 01/24/2005 8:11:05 PM PST by Pikamax

Clinton Seeking Shared Ground Over Abortions By PATRICK D. HEALY

LBANY, Jan. 24 - Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton said on Monday that the opposing sides in the divisive debate over abortion should find "common ground" to prevent unwanted pregnancies and ultimately reduce abortions, which she called a "sad, even tragic choice to many, many women."

In a speech to about 1,000 abortion rights supporters near the New York State Capitol, Mrs. Clinton firmly restated her support for the Supreme Court's ruling in Roe v. Wade, which legalized abortion nationwide in 1973. But then she quickly shifted gears, offering warm words to opponents of legalized abortion and praising the influence of "religious and moral values" on delaying teenage girls from becoming sexually active.

"There is an opportunity for people of good faith to find common ground in this debate - we should be able to agree that we want every child born in this country to be wanted, cherished and loved," Mrs. Clinton said.

Her speech came on the same day as the annual rally in Washington by abortion opponents marking the decision's anniversary. [Page A17.]

Mrs. Clinton called on abortion rights advocates and anti-abortion campaigners to form a broad alliance to support sexual education - including abstinence counseling - family planning, and morning-after emergency contraception for victims of sexual assault as ways to reduce unintended pregnancies. Her remarks were generally well received, though the audience was silent during most of her overtures to anti-abortion groups. Afterward, leading anti-abortion campaigners expressed skepticism.

Mrs. Clinton, widely seen as a possible candidate for the Democratic Party's presidential nomination in 2008, appeared to be reaching out beyond traditional core Democrats who support abortion rights, and doing so not by changing her political stands but by underscoring her views in preventing unplanned pregnancies, promoting adoption, recognizing the influence of religion in abstinence, and herself championing what she has long called "teenage celibacy."

"We can all recognize that abortion in many ways represents a sad, even tragic choice to many, many women," Mrs. Clinton told the annual conference of the Family Planning Advocates of New York State. "The fact is that the best way to reduce the number of abortions is to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies in the first place."

Leading anti-abortion campaigners, in both New York and nationwide, pounced on Mrs. Clinton as a suspect spokeswoman for compromise and common ground given her outspoken support for abortion rights over the years.

"I think she's trying to adopt a values-oriented language, but it lacks substance, at least if you compare it to her record," said Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council in Washington. "If you look at Senator Clinton's voting record on this issue, it's like Planned Parenthood's condoms - it's defective."

Mrs. Clinton's address came as the Democratic Party itself engages in its own re-examination of its handling of the issue in the wake of Senator John Kerry's loss in the presidential race.

Democratic senators such as Harry Reid of Nevada and Dianne Feinstein of California have also pressed for a greater focus on reducing unintended pregnancies, and some Democratic consultants have urged that party leaders mint new language to reach voters who identified moral values as a top issue for them in last November's election.

"Our focus in the speech was to make sure that she still communicated that she was pro-choice - she doesn't want to undermine that - but she also thinks we can have some common ground among all sides and make abortion rare," Neera Tanden, legislative director for Mrs. Clinton, said in a telephone interview.

Before the election, Mrs. Clinton was a visible and public defender of abortion rights, appearing at a huge rally in Washington last spring and denouncing what she called Republican efforts to demonize the abortion rights movement.

And in her remarks, she seemed to acknowledge that this image of her was well-known by anti-abortion campaigners while adding that, to her, it did not tell the full story about her views.

"Yes, we do have deeply held differences of opinion about the issue of abortion and I, for one, respect those who believe with all their hearts and conscience that there are no circumstances under which any abortion should ever be available," Mrs. Clinton said, going on to assert that even some critics of abortion still support the procedure in some cases, such as when the life of the mother is at risk.

The senator also made a nod to the values issue on Monday in praising faith-based and religious organizations for promoting abstinence.

"Research shows that the primary reason teenage girls abstain from early sexual activity is because of their religious and moral values," Mrs. Clinton said. "We should embrace this and support programs that reinforce the idea that abstinence at a young age is not just the smart thing to do, it is the right thing to do."

Mrs. Clinton made clear that she did not favor abstinence-only programs of sexual education.

"We should also recognize what works and what doesn't work and to be fair, the jury is still out on the effectiveness of abstinence-only programs," Mrs. Clinton said. "I don't think this debate should be about ideology - it should be about facts, and evidence. We have to deal with the choices that young people make, not just the choices we wish they would make."

Mrs. Clinton's remarks drew some gasps and head-shaking from those gathered here as she offered a string of statistics and data that, her aides said afterward, were meant to show that preventing unwanted pregnancies could be a unifying issue for supporters and opponents of abortion rights.

Several audience members inhaled sharply, for instance, when Mrs. Clinton said that 7 percent of American women who do not use contraception make up 53 percent of all unintended pregnancies. She also cited research estimating that 15,000 abortions a year are by women who have been sexually assaulted, one of several reasons, she said, why morning-after emergency contraception should be made available over the counter.

After the speech, several members of the audience said they viewed Mrs. Clinton as a "hero" of the abortion rights movement, but also noted that her address seemed intended to reach more conservative and religious voters as well as perhaps in hopes of broadening her base of support for a possible 2008 run.

Mrs. Clinton supported a proposed ban on late-term abortions as long as it included an exception to protect the health of the mother; in turn, she has opposed such a ban when it lacked that exception. She has also supported some state parental notification laws under which a teenager must involve at least one parent in the decision - but only when there is an exception in the laws that allows the judge to bypass the law and let the teenager obtain an abortion on her own - a process known as "judicial bypass," which Mrs. Clinton has also supported before.

Mrs. Clinton also weaved several jabs at the Bush administration into her remarks, at one point saying that the White House had put the lives of many women and girls worldwide "at risk" by restricting abortion counseling services.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; babykiller; commonground; hillary; hitlary; hrc; rats
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1 posted on 01/24/2005 8:11:06 PM PST by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax

Bubba and Shrillary:

psst....your time is up. Get lost and don't return.


2 posted on 01/24/2005 8:13:17 PM PST by indcons (The Quran - the world's first WMD)
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To: Pikamax

I see Mrs. Clinton takes after her husband and talks out of both sides of her mouth! And she couldn't manage to get through the speech without "victimizing" women who choose murder instead of promoting saving the real victims who are the unborn children! Yes, and let's not forget the mantra "It's Bush's fault" that the libs have to repeat at every opportunity....


3 posted on 01/24/2005 8:15:52 PM PST by princess leah (\)
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To: Pikamax

'HEINRICH HIMMLER SEEKS COMMON GROUND WITH ISRAEL'


4 posted on 01/24/2005 8:16:03 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Let's arm all the "patriotic" Democrats and field a penal battalion...)
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To: Pikamax

...And then her and her fellow pigs flew away. Pigs do fly, don't they?


6 posted on 01/24/2005 8:18:12 PM PST by Ron in Acreage (Kerry is (no longer) a threat to national security)
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To: Pikamax

Folks...Hilliary is running for President. We CANNOT let the public forget who she REALLY is and what she REALLY stands for.

This is complete bull. This anti-military socialist witch no more wants to limit abortion than she ever wants to sleep with Bill again. This is her reach to the right. It is transparent enough to make one gag.


7 posted on 01/24/2005 8:18:17 PM PST by rlmorel
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To: rlmorel

Right. We cannot let this woman become president. I'm sure the Democrats will try to gloss her over or something.


8 posted on 01/24/2005 8:20:07 PM PST by wk4bush2004
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To: rlmorel

Right. We cannot let this woman become president. I'm sure the Democrats will try to gloss her over or something.


9 posted on 01/24/2005 8:20:08 PM PST by wk4bush2004
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To: rlmorel

Right. We cannot let this woman become president. I'm sure the Democrats will try to gloss her over or something.


10 posted on 01/24/2005 8:20:09 PM PST by wk4bush2004
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Well said!

How about:

'Salmonella seeks common ground with salad bars'

Don't like that one? Ok, try this one:

'Necrotizing fasciitis seeks common ground with healthy tissue'

The only common ground I'm interested in regarding Senator Hildabeast is the common ground of her local cemetary. [disclaimer: NOT to be construed as any sort of actual threat, the above statement(s) are intended for rhetorical purposes only, the vast public distaste for Senator Fat Ankles notwithstanding.]


12 posted on 01/24/2005 8:21:00 PM PST by Mad Mammoth
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To: Pikamax

Sounds to me like Hillary is trying to have her cake and eat it too.

The scary part is that she'll probably find a way to do it.


13 posted on 01/24/2005 8:22:05 PM PST by MWS
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To: Pikamax

That hypocritical pear legged witch has been a pro abortion feminist all of her life


14 posted on 01/24/2005 8:23:01 PM PST by MJY1288
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To: Pikamax

What a sure sign that the pro-lifers are winning. Hillary trying to reach out to them...whodathunkit?

I seriously doubt that any pro-lifer would be taken in by this...woman. Her downfall is her arrogance. People are not the fools she thinks they are.


15 posted on 01/24/2005 8:24:58 PM PST by JudyinCanada (Five-fingered Canadian)
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To: Pikamax

"praising the influence of "religious and moral values" on delaying teenage girls from becoming sexually active."

Wow. The witch of witches wants to get elected REAL bad. So bad she was able to choke this out.

Folks, for the bible thumpers among you ... I think we just might be getting through.

I would never in a million years thought she'd praise organized religion for helping young girls stay virgins until marriage. But, she is a CLINTON, after all. Bill had to be schooled SOMEWHERE to be so crafty.


16 posted on 01/24/2005 8:26:39 PM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: princess leah

Unfortunately MANY will fall for the VOMIT FROM HELL's double speak!! :(


17 posted on 01/24/2005 8:27:29 PM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: MWS

The article could have been written this time last year and substitute Kerry's name for Hillary----it is the same flip-flop in one speech---

I may be wrong, by I seem to recall that she was the featured speaker at the NARAL convention either last year, or the year before. If you heard Sen. Schumer last week, he was awful, practically laughing at people that question a woman's right to kill as many babies as they want. It was disgusting, and he got standing ovations!!!


18 posted on 01/24/2005 8:28:33 PM PST by Txsleuth (Proud to be a Texan)
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If you heard Sen. Schumer last week, he was awful, practically laughing at people that question a woman's right to kill as many babies as they want. It was disgusting, and he got standing ovations!!!

Just another reason why the Democratic Party is become less and less of a viable party...

19 posted on 01/24/2005 8:31:22 PM PST by MWS
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To: Mad Mammoth

"The only common ground I'm interested in regarding Senator Hildabeast is the common ground of her local cemetary."

Well. if it's compost you want, you'll need to mix her with an awful lot of carbonaceous material to correctly balance the load of sh*t she's composed of.


20 posted on 01/24/2005 8:31:41 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Let's arm all the "patriotic" Democrats and field a penal battalion...)
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