Posted on 01/24/2005 8:24:51 PM PST by Coleus
When you read this article, it may be more of a reality for you.
Tim and Mary artificially conceived 15 children, after their conception their children weren't in a warm 98.6 degree surrounding inside their mother. NO they were sent to the Gulag and put on ice for a few weeks. 6 of her CHILDREN were thawed like a piece of steak, and the so-called 3 "viable" were implanted which means the other 3 unviable were thrown in the garbage (aborted by the human hand)? The article didn't say. She is now pregnant with twins which means the other child didn't make it and was aborted. So, the 3 unviable thawed children were "aborted" or thrown in the garbage before implantation and the other one of the 3 implanted was aborted from inside the mother. Notice they didn't say how it happened or what happened to the embryo/baby.
The article further asks this question, "What should they do with any unused frozen embryos?" or should the article say what should they do with the 9 children they already have on ice or what the parents should do to the rest of THEIR CHILDREN they created! How are they going to explain or rationalize the facts to their grown children if they ever ask or find out how they were created?
Well instead of adopting a child we decided to create 15 children, the two of you were lucky enough to grow to term, 3 of your brothers and sisters didn't thaw correctly and had to be discarded like a freezer-burned hamburger and the rest of your 9 brothers and sisters (probably still alive in a lab or freezer) have been sentenced to death where they were sent to a Gulag awaiting to be harvested for their parts all in the name of science in a country were INDIVIDUAL rights, based on biblical principals, were supposed to have been granted by law.
Notice one option is to have the embryos "adopted" by another couple. That hardly happens, that's why there are 400,000 babies on ice.
Hey, why didn't Tim and Mary adopt in the first place? Adoption the loving option, Adoption not Abortion.
Why create 15 human lives where only 2 survived when all they could have done was to adopt a child already born, just waiting for a loving family and home?
Zygotes and embryos are people and so is soilent green, looks like the Charlton Heston sci-fi movie wasn't so far-fetched or fiction for that matter.
A Catholic person who actually procures an abortion occurs a latae sententiae excommunication.
What's that giant sucking sound I hear in Sacramento? Could it be our borrowed money going down the tubes?
FYI
And we just threw away THREE BILLION DOLLLARS in CA for embryonic stem cell research. Which will cost us another THREE BILLION DOLLARS to pay off...
Thank you, governor!
No, don't be silly. The whole reason the California initiative (and similar measures) have been passed is so that researchers need not depend on the contaminated lines approved for federal funding.
Uh, yeah. But the whole reason the California initiative (and similar measures) have been passed is so that researchers need not depend on the contaminated lines approved for federal funding.
And all the while, umbilical blood stem cells are effective, proven, and waiting to be ethically explored. What a waste ...
Coleus, you and I will have to agree to disagree on whether or not someone "kills" their children by IVF. Miscarriages happen. If there are 7 attempts, I would be willing to bet that there were never any "extre" embryos.
AntiGuv,
The "initiative" was to allow the researchers in the Ivory Towers to steal taxpayers' money rather than have to get their hands dirty finding financial backers - as most entrepeneurs or inovators in this country would have to do.
Who told these guys they have the right to OPM to buy their toys?
(I guess the same voters who voted for Barbara Boxer and John Kerry. )
Nope, it's another baby being aborted for this madness.
"But the whole reason the California initiative"
Is a scam!
I'm not saying anything about the merit of the California initiative or the value of embryonic stem cell research (as opposed to adult, umbilical, etc). All I'm saying is that the California stem cell research will not be using the contaminated federal stem cell lines, and so the contamination of the federal lines is not an argument against the CA research (if anything, it supports the rationale of the CA initiative).
PS. I have no problem with embryonic stem cell research so long as the source lines aren't received from abortion.
Abortion and the selling of infant body parts is a very lucrative business.
I have no problem with embryonic stem cell research so long as the source lines aren't received from abortion. >>
From where else would they come?
Fertilization clinics.
I have a feeling that the current boom to get states to invest in embryonic stem cell research is a boondoggle along the lines of wildcat oil wells in the 1980's. The formula requires that one person pose as an expert in an investment opportunity, and the other person to trust him that "now is the time to get in on the ground floor."
It's just a way to initiate a society-wide transfer of cash and fatten a few pockets along the way by building things no one needs. Even the WPA was better intended. At least it gave us lots of nice parks and sidewalks you can still use today.
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