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1 posted on 01/25/2005 8:44:17 AM PST by qam1
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2 posted on 01/25/2005 8:45:21 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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Just imagine the effect of 50 million more babies....

Most of whom would have voted for Gore or Kerry....

3 posted on 01/25/2005 8:45:47 AM PST by r9etb
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BTTT - to read later.


4 posted on 01/25/2005 8:48:35 AM PST by Right2Lifer (God bless America)
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I think the person who was ordained to cure some of our illnesses of today, cancer, diabetes, etc... may have been aborted and therefore, it is possible no cure will be found.


7 posted on 01/25/2005 8:56:02 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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Strictly speaking, I don't think we can look at the total number of children lost as a total change to the American population, because many women who had abortions when they were young went on to have children later in life that they might not have had (using the pill) if they'd started a family sooner.


10 posted on 01/25/2005 8:58:32 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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Might have been another Einstein in there...or someone that would have found the cure for cancer...or any number of things. But the numbers are elevated. Some of the women that aborted once have multiple abortions. If they had the first child, the probablility of getting pregnant again decline. You tend to get "more responsible" etc. My wife and I used to joke that our son was the best birth control in the world. Not only for ourselves, but for the neighbors in our apartment complex we used to live in. He would start crying (colic) at about 0200 when all the single folk were getting back from the bars or whatever.


11 posted on 01/25/2005 9:00:12 AM PST by KurtAZ (So they've got us surrounded, good! Now we can fire in any direction, those bastards won't get away)
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Just imagine if all the babies, throughout history that were aborted, had lived...or for that matter, all the people that died in any way other than from natural causes, or accidents??!!


14 posted on 01/25/2005 9:02:07 AM PST by stuartcr
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At a neighborhood party a couple of months ago, an elderly lib was lamenting about how she wasn't sure if she would be able to retire because social security was in such a financial mess. My response was that if bigger families were promoted, all the babies born would be able to support the System in 20 years. She said she hadn't thought of that. When I said I believe part of the social security mess is because of the prevalence of abortion as a form of birth control, she was so shocked she couldn't speak.


16 posted on 01/25/2005 9:02:38 AM PST by nicolezmomma
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What really disgusts me is when people, especially "conservatives," lament abortion because "those babies could've paid for our social security".

What a truly sick attitude to take. We shouldn't oppose abortion for such socialist and selfish reasons. We should oppose abortion because it's wrong. Period.


17 posted on 01/25/2005 9:03:04 AM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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Several years ago I had an elderly neighbor who would always tout the benefits of legalized abortion. To him, it was simply a matter of cost efficiency. He would quote me the cost to the state and federal governments of raising a child to adulthood and beyond on public assistance and incarceration of a certain percentage of these folks.

I wonder what his "cost efficiency" calculations showed for the elderly.

18 posted on 01/25/2005 9:11:07 AM PST by RJL
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Hmmm, an interesting point. It would be nice to see a study that makes the assumption that the aborted would have joined society in equal proportion to the existing population. Then we could have estimates of:

How many additional teachers...
How many additional firefighters...
How many additional Doctors....
How many additional Policemen...
How many additional Scientists...
How many additional Union members...

etc, have been aborted.

Oh, and you could also included how many Democrats as well. That just might strike some fear into the hearts of the liberals.
19 posted on 01/25/2005 9:11:13 AM PST by taxcontrol (People are entitled to their opinion - no matter how wrong it is.)
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> imagine 50 million more wage earners paying Social Security

Well, that's a shudderful thought, regardless of the source.


21 posted on 01/25/2005 9:15:46 AM PST by orionblamblam
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Awesome post, Qam. An exceelent analysis of the economic impact of abortion.

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25 posted on 01/25/2005 12:31:13 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Women need abortion like a fish needs a bicycle.)
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The Democratic party is being punished by God today for its stance in favor of abortion in the 1970's. In a nutshell, abortion cost the Democrats the presidency in 2000 and 2004.

How, do you ask?

Democrats tend to have abortions at a higher rate than Republicans.

Children tend to grow up to have political beliefs similar to those of their parents.

Abortion was made legal nationwide by Roe vs. Wade in the mid 1970's.

Individuals born in the mid 1970's would be eligible voters in the 2000 and 2004 elections.

The 2000 and 2004 elections were both extremely close - so close that a couple million aborted would-be-Democrats could easily have tipped the scales.

Like I said, the Democratic party is being punished by God for its stance on abortion.


31 posted on 01/25/2005 3:31:37 PM PST by LaBradford22
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My neighbor's hypothesis assumed all of these children would be born to single women or at least families on public assistance.
I have always taken this argument personally because I grew up on welfare thanks to a deadbeat dad and it's like hearing people say I should have been aborted. I'm a taxpayer now, and I take care of my elderly Mom in law. I guess now all these bleeding hearts would say.."Oh, now your ok, your valuable now." I hate hearing I'm special, that not everyone turns out like me. It's well meaning but also so ignorant and cruel and above all arrogant and elitist Babies should get a chance, poor or not.
32 posted on 01/26/2005 9:56:46 AM PST by KPfromDerryNH
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