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To: Cornpone
Government advocacy of socially deviant lifestyles

How does this interfere with your freedoms?

2 posted on 01/25/2005 4:42:25 PM PST by Kleon
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To: Kleon

End of the right of anonymous travel.

Requirement to interface with government whether you want to or not (income tax returns, for instance).

Over zealous building codes destroy right to do as you please with your property.


4 posted on 01/25/2005 4:45:41 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: Kleon
Government advocacy of socially deviant lifestyles... How does this interfere with your freedoms?

I'm paying for it through my tax dollars and I don't believe it meets the constitutional test of the 'common good.' Its like playing poker against your own money.

8 posted on 01/25/2005 4:48:56 PM PST by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Hit'em in the Head)
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To: Kleon
"Government advocacy of socially deviant lifestyles"

"How does this interfere with your freedoms?"

When Clinton altered military policies concerning sexual preferences he opened up a can of worms. When soldiers go into the "field" they are provided 1 shelter half. Two soldiers join the "halves" together to make a tent. That tent is shared for sleeping . I think that certain Troops might takes exception to such sleeping conditions. Amplify that sentiment in a barracks or a ship or in other situations requiring close living quarters. 

The bottom line is that it could be bad for morale. That could effect individual performance. The Military could lose a battle because of disgruntled Troops compelled to endorse a lifestyle  which personally offends them. Losing a battle could result in losing a war. Losing a war might interfere with our freedoms!

Simplistic for sure, but there are reasons that the military has policies, and society has mores.

11 posted on 01/25/2005 4:58:06 PM PST by Radix (Free snow. All you can handle. You haul!)
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To: Kleon

Because our government is based on moral laws. When our government promotes immorality (and not just homosexuality), the nation suffers. Most immoral activities are hurtful to families.


14 posted on 01/25/2005 5:02:59 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: Kleon

How about messing with the minds of our children by advocating and encouraging the tolerance and experimentation of homosexual life styles in government schools, which is abhorent to the tax paying parents of those children?


36 posted on 01/25/2005 6:03:53 PM PST by Paperdoll
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To: Kleon

Creates soscila pathologies that inspire calls for more government programs


77 posted on 01/25/2005 8:17:56 PM PST by radicalamericannationalist (The Senate is our new goal: 60 in '06.)
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To: Kleon

I don't have the freedom to discriminate against homosexuals even though I have every moral and health reason to do so.


137 posted on 01/26/2005 3:05:35 AM PST by thoughtomator (Favorite Dish: Spotted Owl Teriyaki)
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To: Kleon
Cornpone wrote:

Government advocacy of socially deviant lifestyles

To which Kleon asked:

How does this interfere with your freedoms?

It interferes because

(1) government shouldn't promote any "lifestyle",

(2) government will push degenerate behavior onto our children, and I want them OUT of that forum, and

(3) a society that can't value the family will lose the strength the family unit bestows on the society of which it is a necessary part.

Clear?

170 posted on 01/26/2005 12:54:51 PM PST by sauron ("Truth is hate to those who hate Truth" --unknown)
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To: Kleon
Liberty is built on morality. The founders understood this. They also understand that fundamental moral principle was not a shifting sand dune, subject to the mores of the day, that it came from God.
"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other."- John Adams, Oct. 11, 1798
As we depart from these principles, our freedom is eroded and the very principles that this republic and its liberties was founded upon are destroyed.

That's how.

245 posted on 01/26/2005 8:34:10 PM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Kleon
Government attempts to redefine millennia-old family relationships and bonds, i.e., gay marriage

The flaw is that government defined marriage in the first place. People were getting married for millenia before Congress came along and started punishing and rewarding based on marital status. But what the government can define, the government can re-define at whim.

The way to eliminate government promotion of gay marriage is to eliminate government promotion of any marriage, and let the institution stand on it's own. Somehow, I think marriage would do better without the government "help".

254 posted on 01/27/2005 4:29:46 AM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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