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Two Florida boys charged with a felony for violent stick figure drawings
AP ^ | 1/25/5

Posted on 01/25/2005 9:20:50 PM PST by SmithL

OCALA -- Two boys were arrested for making pencil-and-crayon stick figure drawings depicting a 10-year-old classmate being stabbed and hung, police said. The children, charged with a felony, were taken from school in handcuffs.

The 9- and 10-year-old boys were arrested Monday and charged with making a written threat to kill or harm another person. They were also suspended from school.

One drawing showed the two boys standing on either side of the other boy and "holding knives pointed through" his body, according to a police report. The figures were identified by written names or initials.

Another drawing showed a stick figure hanging, tears falling from his eyes, with two other stick figures standing below him.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; cpswatch; discipline; donutwatch; education; florida; flpublicschools; govwatch; homeschoollist; pspl; publiceducation; publicschool; publicschools; students; teens; yourtaxdollarsatwork; zerotolerance
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Zero tolerance can't make up for zero intelligence.
1 posted on 01/25/2005 9:20:50 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Hmm, wonder what kind of trouble I would have gotten in when I use to draw stick fiqure war scenes when I was really bored in class. =/


2 posted on 01/25/2005 9:25:40 PM PST by Brian328i (Skimmed Oil for Food money is used to kill innocent Iraqis, where's the "No Blood for Oil" outrage?)
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To: Brian328i
Hmm, wonder what kind of trouble I would have gotten in when I use to draw stick fiqure war scenes when I was really bored in class

You wouldn't be alone.

3 posted on 01/25/2005 9:27:08 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: Brian328i
You are sooo lucky there's a statue of limitations.
4 posted on 01/25/2005 9:29:16 PM PST by MaxMax
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To: SmithL

Oh no. They better never find my stick figure drawings of Bill, Hillary, Terry Mac, Carvile, Kerry, the Chappaquiddick Lifeguard, Pelosi, etc.


5 posted on 01/25/2005 9:30:26 PM PST by doug from upland (THE RED STATES - celebrate a great American tradition)
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To: Brian328i

Oh, you played hangman, too?


6 posted on 01/25/2005 9:30:32 PM PST by SmithL
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To: Brian328i

We used to draw movies of stick Army men on the edge of the pages in books. You'd fan the pages to see the "flick". Guess I'd have been locked up for good these days.


7 posted on 01/25/2005 9:31:11 PM PST by mikegi
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To: Gunslingr3

Damn right about that. War scenes as gory as only a 7 yr old can make...lol.


8 posted on 01/25/2005 9:31:29 PM PST by Khurkris (That sound you hear coming from over the horizon...thats me laughing.)
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To: Joe Brower

ping


9 posted on 01/25/2005 9:31:36 PM PST by stainlessbanner (Southern powder and Southern steel)
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To: SmithL

Florida is just filling FR up with the winner stories today.


10 posted on 01/25/2005 9:31:57 PM PST by My Favorite Headache (I Watch TV, What Do You Want From Me?)
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To: SmithL

With the laws we have now, I probably would have been executed for the things I wrote in school.


11 posted on 01/25/2005 9:32:00 PM PST by Junior_G
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To: SmithL

Well, hell's bells! Jeb-boy best git on the stick and slap some sense into these pointy head school marm types. Damn shame if'n this comes back to bite him in the @ss down the road when when he's lookin' to wear a bigger hat.


12 posted on 01/25/2005 9:43:23 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Let's arm all the "patriotic" Democrats and field a penal battalion...)
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To: SmithL
Wonder what would they get for drawing pictures of aborted babies
or a picture of the Supreme Court pulling the plug on Terri Schiavo?
13 posted on 01/25/2005 9:43:47 PM PST by joesnuffy (If America isn't a Christian nation from whom do we derive our God given rights?)
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To: SmithL

Certainly these drawings show a problem, but why did they draw them ? Have these two boys shown previous bad or violent behavior ? Come from abusive homes ? Or have they been bullied by the child they have depicted in the picture ? As far as children go, I believe that if they act out there is always a reason why.


14 posted on 01/25/2005 9:44:51 PM PST by Rainmist (Where are you Cosmo ??)
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To: SmithL

Playing devil's advocate here... the article does say that the figures had names of actual people attached to them. A classmate depicted as being full of knives shouldn't be taken lightly, although definitely not felony-level.


15 posted on 01/25/2005 9:45:17 PM PST by Nataku X (You've heard, "Be more like Jesus." But have you ever heard, "Be more like Mohammad"?)
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To: SmithL

My tagline.........


16 posted on 01/25/2005 9:49:15 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (I can no longer discern reality from satire on this site. America is losing her common sense.)
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To: SmithL
StickDeath?!

StickDeath "Hopper"

StickDeath "Stickini"

17 posted on 01/25/2005 9:51:09 PM PST by Henchster
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To: SmithL
Good grief. All I ever did was draw war scenes. I think I would have spent my entire youth in juvenile detention.
18 posted on 01/25/2005 9:57:42 PM PST by fso301
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To: SmithL

Separation of school and state BUMP!


19 posted on 01/25/2005 9:57:55 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: SmithL
Zero tolerance can't make up for zero intelligence.

They misunderstood. The boys were engaging in an ancient voodoo religious ritual. Next week (after the court order) they will have a special day dedicated where all students will dress up "in-costume" and draw stick figures of torture.

20 posted on 01/25/2005 9:58:22 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: fso301

I used to write my own stories (fictional of course) when i was younger. I deleted all of them because i figured i would get in trouble if someone found them and didn't know what they were. Now i'm glad i didn't leave that kind of "imaginative/fictional" stuff laying around, i'd be locked up. hehe


21 posted on 01/25/2005 10:01:45 PM PST by 1FASTGLOCK45
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To: SmithL; Brian328i
I also use to draw stick figure war scenes in school when I was bored and I probably would have gotten executed in the electric chair if they would have seen how many pages of HANGMAN I played with some of my friends when i was done with my school work the teachers and the police that cuffed these children need to be arrested for armed kidnapping and child abuse
22 posted on 01/25/2005 10:06:06 PM PST by freepatriot32 (http://chonlalonde.blogspot.com)
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To: Henchster

Awww shoot! You beat me too it!


23 posted on 01/25/2005 10:11:13 PM PST by Dr. Marten
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To: SmithL

Teacher

24 posted on 01/25/2005 10:43:28 PM PST by Wiggins
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To: SmithL

This could've been a story from The Onion. There goes Floriduh again making asses out of themselves.


25 posted on 01/26/2005 1:56:36 AM PST by demkicker (I'm Ra th er sick of Dan)
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To: demkicker

There's something else going on there. My guess is that the boys were "off" and seen by the school as potentially violent. The parents refused offers by social workers or the school shrink. School authorities, fearing for safety of other students, trumped up this charge.

Whether you think that chain of events is better or worse, I can't say.


26 posted on 01/26/2005 2:02:04 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: SmithL

Does that mean Hangman is verboten?


27 posted on 01/26/2005 2:08:40 AM PST by hershey
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To: Annie03; AntiBurr; Baby Bear; BJClinton; BlackbirdSST; BroncosFan; Capitalism2003; dAnconia; ...
Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here.
28 posted on 01/26/2005 2:27:55 AM PST by freepatriot32 (http://chonlalonde.blogspot.com)
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To: freepatriot32

bump for later.


29 posted on 01/26/2005 2:34:00 AM PST by Godebert
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To: trussell; Born Conservative

one for for your ping lists


30 posted on 01/26/2005 2:37:30 AM PST by freepatriot32 (http://chonlalonde.blogspot.com)
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To: SmithL

Up their RITALIN dosgaes........ through the roof!!! Can't have any boys acting like boys.


31 posted on 01/26/2005 3:17:51 AM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: MaxMax

Where? Is it smaller than the one of Lady Liberty in New York?


32 posted on 01/26/2005 3:18:03 AM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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To: Rainmist
Certainly these drawings show a problem, but why did they draw them ? Have these two boys shown previous bad or violent behavior ? Come from abusive homes ? Or have they been bullied by the child they have depicted in the picture ? As far as children go, I believe that if they act out there is always a reason why.

thank you, Dr...

I do not understand how you see a "problem" with the boys, just because they draw stick figures...

Maybe they are just... boys...


33 posted on 01/26/2005 3:31:29 AM PST by pageonetoo (I could name them, but you'll spot their posts soon enough.)
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To: hershey
Does that mean Hangman is verboten?

We used to play hangman in 4th grade, on rainy days when we couldn't go outside for recess. The teacher showed us how. Guess our entire class would be in jail on felony charges in these times.

34 posted on 01/26/2005 3:57:16 AM PST by ARepublicanForAllReasons (Go away, nanny state, just go away!)
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To: Henchster

Stickini takes the prize....thats a good one.


35 posted on 01/26/2005 4:07:18 AM PST by Diverdogz
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To: Brian328i
Hmm, wonder what kind of trouble I would have gotten in when I use to draw stick fiqure war scenes when I was really bored in class. =/

If done today, you'd probably be in an adjoining cell to Slobodan Milosevic ;-)

36 posted on 01/26/2005 4:28:39 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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37 posted on 01/26/2005 4:42:44 AM PST by Born Conservative (Those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself." - Richard Nixon)
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To: Nataku X
But a felony???? For drawing pictures? Of course, a similar picture where the "victim" was the president would have been fine. The kid probably would have gotten an award for that kind of "threat."

People, there IS NO freedom of speech. What we have is one self-selected group of people determining what is and isn't okay for anybody else to say. Not only is this nonsense, it is evil. We have become what we've always fought against.

38 posted on 01/26/2005 5:19:33 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Henchster
Why stick people are extinct.
39 posted on 01/26/2005 5:21:47 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: MaxMax; Brian328i
You are sooo lucky there's a statue of limitations.

Only until they make it a capital crime. Then, RUN!
40 posted on 01/26/2005 5:23:27 AM PST by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: pageonetoo

Obviously you are childless.


41 posted on 01/26/2005 6:04:08 AM PST by Rainmist (Where are you Cosmo ??)
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To: Rainmist
Certainly these drawings show a problem...

You were obviously never a little boy.

42 posted on 01/26/2005 6:33:24 AM PST by jimt
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To: SmithL

Would this pic make a kid seem suicidal or homicidal?

43 posted on 01/26/2005 6:36:17 AM PST by PilloryHillary
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To: Rainmist
Obviously you are childless....

Obviously you are clueless. I have 5! Oldest son is cop, #2 son is band teacher, three and four daughters are "at home" mommy's, and the fifth daughter is 15 and an artist!

44 posted on 01/26/2005 6:41:34 AM PST by pageonetoo (I could name them, but you'll spot their posts soon enough.)
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To: Brian328i; Gunslingr3; MaxMax; doug from upland; mikegi; Henchster; fso301

There's a whole genre of computer animated stick fights out there. Entire web sites are devoted to the art. Check it out:

http://directory.google.com/Top/Recreation/Humor/Bizarre/Stick_Figure_Deaths?tc=1/

I'm sure most computer-savvy boys are aware of this. I wonder if the school administrators are?


45 posted on 01/26/2005 6:41:53 AM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Joe Brower

possible story for your florida ping list


46 posted on 01/26/2005 7:02:44 AM PST by freepatriot32 (http://chonlalonde.blogspot.com)
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To: SmithL
Two boys were arrested for making pencil-and-crayon stick figure drawings depicting a 10-year-old classmate being stabbed and hung

My friend and I did this in an ongoing cartoon (similar to Spy vs Spy in Mad Magazine). I was older then, high school, so I guess they would have given us the chair.

47 posted on 01/26/2005 8:27:34 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: SmithL

Stick figures are a bad influence must be defeated!

48 posted on 01/26/2005 8:41:59 AM PST by uglybiker (The most popular guy at a nudist camp can carry 2 cups of coffee and a dozen doughnuts)
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To: SmithL

In high school my husband once wrote a letter to a girl in class stating that read, regarding two teachers they were complaining about, "They aren't even worth two bullets between them." This was in the bottom of the garbage in one of the teacher's classrooms. The teacher dug through her garbage found this statement and said she felt threatened by her student (before this she was already mad that he was able to pass her tests without doing the homework. something she said was impossible) He ended up moved out of her class. If it were now-a-days he would have a felony criminal record.


49 posted on 01/26/2005 9:49:58 AM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: SmithL; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...

WTF!!


50 posted on 01/26/2005 9:51:08 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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