Posted on 01/26/2005 9:07:37 AM PST by SunkenCiv
note the comments about sovereignty.
and the notion of "nation-states"
The left is trying to reduce countries to mere states ala the USA.
This is the leftist mantra towards world SOCIALIST government.
We are not just in a war of terror,we are in a cold war of ideology AGAIN. It is global americanizing of the world vs global eurosocialism tyrany by paperwork.
Presumably the existence of separate seats for member states implies that they may vote separately as well, i.e. that they may differ on an issue. Is this even permissible under the current EU constitution? If it is, then current issues of sovereignty with respect to foreign policy are being misrepresented, especially to the British public. If it is not, then we contemplate the formation of a voting bloc, all of whom vote the same way under direction of central EU authority, and it is difficult to see why a separate new EU seat would be allowed under that scenario.
The goal of the eurocrats is to silence anti-german anti french foreign policy positions.
Remember during the lead up to Iraq, the French PM told the "lesser" nations to sit down and shut up and obey france. This was during another nations tenure holding the rotaiting EU presidency.
The french revolution redux, only this one will be by papercut rather than blade.
The EU army WILL become reality and it WILL be another makework program along the lines of airbus. All the member nations make weapons and those weapons will be required of the new EU army.
Exactly!
The Moslem bloc already has too much paradeground power in the UN. Until they drop their medieval fascist theology, they shouldn't even be permitted in the UN General Assembly.
The UNSC allegedly makes decisions on how to police the world and protect sovereignty of member states. Nations besides those with seats on the UNSC do contribute to police actions and the like, but generally don't contribute huge numbers of troops. The US is number one, probably followed by Britain; Australia and Canada also have contributed a large proportion, given those nations' population. Dunno where Germany falls, but until Afghanistan German troops never left the reich, er, lebensraum, er, German territory.
The French have been keeping busy blowing up stuff in critical places like the Ivory Coast. Seriously, I doubt that French forces have been often deployed except in former French colonies, other than the postwar occupation of Germany and perhaps in the Yugoslavistan mess.
Well, yeah, the EU is all about surrender of sovereignty, under the guise of economic reform and international standards for pizza and the like. It makes sense to have open trade, and in order to accomplish that, the EU was created as leverage against the various obstructionist (and typically very left wing) guilds, unions, and other luddites. We see their support for the EU precisely because national sovereignty is vanishing. That is more important (for the time being, during the EU equivalent of the hudna) than, say, unnatural restrictions on agricultural production (done in order to inflate the price).
Open trade increases the number of people involved in the market economy (which always exists at some level, even in countries which claim to have none), and continually reduces the threat of war. One doesn't go to war with ones trading partners unless they for some reason go to war with you.
The EU wants to sell arms to China. That will yield some short term economic benefit, will reopen the world market to EU arms (a problem now that Saddam has been removed, with Iran, Syria, Lebanon, and other despotates on the to-do list) and give the manufacturers thereof a better economy of scale.
It also helps to create a sense of independence from the US, on which Europe has relied for its security.
It also helps build a new rival for the sole superpower, the US. That really plays well in Europe, with its idiotic fears that (for example) the second Bush term will undermine world peace.
What world peace?
bump
...and please, an additional one for 'Eastern'??? California, after we've split from Hollywood, and the rest of the 'Left Coast', okay?
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