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Good, bad and ugly (Why I'm Leaving the Guardian)
Guardian ^ | 11/29/03 | Julie Burchill

Posted on 01/26/2005 1:58:21 PM PST by abu afak

Good, bad and ugly

Julie Burchill November 29, 2003 The Guardian

As you might have heard, I'm leaving the Guardian next year for the Times, having finally been convinced that my evil populist philistinism has no place in a publication read by so many all-round, top-drawer plaster saints. (Well, that and the massive wad they've waved at me.) Once there, I will compose as many love letters to the likes of Mr Murdoch and Pres Bush as my black little heart desires, leaving those who have always objected to my presence on such a fine liberal newspaper as this to read only writers they agree with, with no chance of spoiled digestion as the muesli goes down the wrong way if I so much as murmur about bringing back hanging. (Public.)

Not only do I admire the Guardian, I also find it fun to read, which in a way is more of a compliment. But if there is one issue that has made me feel less loyal to my newspaper over the past year, it has been what I, as a non-Jew, perceive to be a quite striking bias against the state of Israel. Which, for all its faults, is the only country in that barren region that you or I, or any feminist, atheist, homosexual or trade unionist, could bear to live under.

I find this hard to accept because, crucially, I don't swallow the modern liberal line that anti-Zionism is entirely different from anti-semitism;..."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,5673,1094420,00.html

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
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1 posted on 01/26/2005 1:58:22 PM PST by abu afak
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To: abu afak

Here I agree with you.

The Guardian has no balance of arguement.


2 posted on 01/26/2005 1:59:23 PM PST by kingsurfer
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To: abu afak
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The highlighted remark is a remarkably honest and forthright statement...
3 posted on 01/26/2005 1:59:42 PM PST by KMC1
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To: abu afak

It appears as if there's at least one Englishman who's tired of being "Fisked."


4 posted on 01/26/2005 2:00:43 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("Your influence counts...USE IT!" (Bob Grant)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

Julie Burchill, beleive it or not is a woman.

And story this is two years old.


5 posted on 01/26/2005 2:02:40 PM PST by Still in Denial ("How fortunate for leaders that men do not think" - Adolf Hitler)
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To: Still in Denial
I think it's about time I made that much-delayed trip to the opthamologist.
6 posted on 01/26/2005 2:05:19 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("Your influence counts...USE IT!" (Bob Grant)
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To: Still in Denial

The story is 14 months old.. not 2 yrs..

and is Relevant as there is a rather heated discussion going on in another, now well down the board string, on the BBC and British Press.. with Kingfisher telling us this is just "Leftism" not Israel Demonization or Anti-Semitism.

SO, in addition to the fact this is a Great Article from an inside source that probably few now using the board have seen...
THAT'S why I'm posting it now.

I consider Guardian even Worse and more Biased than BBC and into the realm of Anti-Semitism from mere 'Critcal of Israeli policy'.


7 posted on 01/26/2005 2:10:50 PM PST by abu afak (abuafak@yahoo.ie)
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To: abu afak

I dunno about all that. But I have noticed that the Guardian is getting more and more ANTISEMITIC every day. Some recent columns have been absolutely atrocious. It goes way beyond antipathy to Israel. It's left wing lunacy.


8 posted on 01/26/2005 2:14:20 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: abu afak

This woman is a really good writer -- I like her good humor. I hope freepers will post more of her work in the future.


9 posted on 01/26/2005 2:20:04 PM PST by 68skylark
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To: abu afak
Not only this article but this sentence:

If you take into account the theory that Jews are responsible for everything nasty in the history of the world, and also the recent EU survey that found 60% of Europeans believe Israel is the biggest threat to peace in the world today (hmm, I must have missed all those rabbis telling their flocks to go out with bombs strapped to their bodies and blow up the nearest mosque), it's a short jump to reckoning that it was obviously a bloody good thing that the Nazis got rid of six million of the buggers.

...is probably the most brilliant destruction of anti-Israel anti-semitism that I have ever read.

10 posted on 01/26/2005 2:25:20 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: abu afak

Thanks for posting this article abu, this is the first thing that I have ever read in the guardian that i have agreed with.


11 posted on 01/26/2005 2:25:29 PM PST by George Norris
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To: 68skylark

"This woman is a really good writer -- I like her good humor. I hope freepers will post more of her work in the future."

She is a god writer, and she can be humourous.

But I doubt that most Freepers would appreciate most of her work.


12 posted on 01/26/2005 2:32:51 PM PST by Still in Denial ("How fortunate for leaders that men do not think" - Adolf Hitler)
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To: abu afak

"I consider Guardian even Worse and more Biased than BBC"

So do I, but at least they have an openly left wing agenda and aren't publically funded propagandaists.

End of the day, you don't like it, then don't read it.

I avoid the Guardian like the plague.


13 posted on 01/26/2005 2:35:31 PM PST by Still in Denial ("How fortunate for leaders that men do not think" - Adolf Hitler)
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To: Still in Denial; kingfisher; Alouette; dervish
""End of the day, you don't like it, then don't read it."" Duh.. and I don't. but I do have it spouted at me on many message boards and topics.. and am delighted to be able to post this well reasoned Defection and criticism. Hope we get Kingfisher/BBC-Guardian apologist in on this one too..
14 posted on 01/26/2005 2:41:52 PM PST by abu afak (abuafak@yahoo.ie)
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To: 68skylark

"This woman is a really good writer."

She's also openly, indeed voiciferously bisexual. Just thought I'd mention it.


16 posted on 01/26/2005 3:24:59 PM PST by Glyndwr4Cymru
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To: Glyndwr4Cymru
She's also openly, indeed voiciferously bisexual.

Cool! I'm liking this chick more and more.

17 posted on 01/26/2005 3:28:24 PM PST by 68skylark
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To: Glyndwr4Cymru

vociferously, even.


18 posted on 01/26/2005 3:30:19 PM PST by Glyndwr4Cymru
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To: abu afak

I loved this column..What a great opus!


19 posted on 01/26/2005 3:45:23 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: 68skylark

"I hope freepers will post more of her work in the future."

Here you are, go hog wild - her last 12 months' worth of Guardian columns:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Archive/0,5673,-4,00.html

Thinking about it, I'm really surprised Burchill hasn't popped up here before. FR would appear to be her spiritual home. As a Guardian columnist I guess she's automatically been dismissed as a leftist anti-semite, but that really couldn't be further from the truth. And it's not like that article is indicative of a sudden change in her - she was writing passionately pro-Israel, anti-Muslim, pro-American, pro-war articles for years. In The Guardian, yes, that's right. Who'da thunk it eh? (You doubt me? Check the link.)

And the real reason she left The Guardian is that The Times offered her more money.


20 posted on 01/26/2005 3:55:51 PM PST by Glyndwr4Cymru
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