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To: Vermonter

It's th arrogance of MAC people that offends me. The call me stupid because I have a better, faster machine for half the cost.


49 posted on 01/26/2005 6:12:02 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin

Wrong. Mac useres are happy to be left alone. They have a superior machine, and more importatly, a superior user experience.

They (or should I say WE) don't give a rat's ass what you think privately, but we do get a bit put off by ignorant arrogance.

Like you are demonstrating with your comment about a "better faster machine at half the cost".

Frankly, I don't believe you. Maybe you aren't stupid; I can't say, as I don't know you. But you sure don't know what you are talking about.


64 posted on 01/26/2005 6:23:22 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: John Lenin

Better and faster? When it works?

I've been busy setting up a small computer lab for the past month - 16 PCs. These machines are not brand new, but I did go through and F-disk them all, then re-install the OS.

How much joy is that? After tracking down umpteen drivers for network cards, sound cards, video cards that the OS didn't include (or for some strange reason refused to load), and after troubleshooting strange missing .dll files and such that were there, but not....

Yeah - I loved that experience.

Give me a room full of macs and a day and I can have a networked lab up and running.


130 posted on 01/26/2005 7:35:44 PM PST by TheBattman (Islam (and liberals)- the cult of Satan)
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To: John Lenin
It's th arrogance of MAC people that offends me. The call me stupid because I have a better, faster machine for half the cost.

Arrogance does not belong only to MAC people. It's on both sides of the fence. Back in the early 1980's, I believe 1985, I tried to convince my supervisor of the merits of Apple's Macintosh mouse GUI. Our office had standardized on Intel PC's, with the Microsoft DOS text-based system. We were both IT engineers. I even dragged him to Macintosh computer shows for a look-see at the GUI interfaces. He was adamant that the use of a mouse was a fad that would pass quickly, that Apple was wrong in pursuing a GUI interface and that "I promise you that you'll never ever see a mouse used on an Intal PC platform!". I had the last laugh a few years later.

Back in the late 1970's, I belonged to the San Francisco Apple Core computer club, along with Andy Hertzfeld. He is a genius, but is modest and not arrogant. He truly wanted to share information and for everyone to have a better computer. One time I was talking about interfacing an electronic typewriter to my Apple II (in the early days, we built our interfaces). Andy sketched a diagram for me, on a matchbook cover, of a serial interface to the game-port that would cost under 2 bucks.

134 posted on 01/26/2005 7:39:01 PM PST by roadcat
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To: John Lenin
"It's th arrogance of MAC people that offends me. The call me stupid because I have a better, faster machine for half the cost...."




Generalizing users of a particular OS strikes me as a bit odd... Maybe 10 years ago, when there were less than a handful of crossover programs between Mac and PC and the Mac cost was WAY above PC...

Speed is a subjective thing nowadays anyway... Question should be how productive are you in a given task? How often are you dealing with OS induced errors and not working on projects? System freezes? SLOW and FOREVER startups? Pop Up ads and SPY ware junk when you try to check the news? God forbid you try to add a sound card, the hard drives will probably freak and crash!

I'd much rather pop open the laptop and get to work (haven't had to restart my machine for about 3 weeks, OSX never crashes, I hear that's a UNIX thing).

But to each his own, besides it's almost a seamless world with MS Office...

Just like Fords and Chevy's! ha ha! They all run on the same liquid...
210 posted on 01/27/2005 4:43:26 AM PST by Barney59 (Now there's a man with an open mind - you can feel the breeze from here!)
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