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Lugar, Rice, & Others Pushing For Law Of the Sea Treaty (LOST) Passage
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Posted on 01/26/2005 6:44:05 PM PST by Iam1ru1-2

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To: davidosborne

Legal experts won't be able to oppose this, but political scientists might.


41 posted on 01/27/2005 10:38:39 AM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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To: dubyaismypresident

I just called Sen Lugar's office, and his aide told me that President Bush SUPPORTS this and the committee supports it 100% what are we missing here?


42 posted on 01/27/2005 10:57:32 AM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: davidosborne

Maybe they just don't make Republicans like they used to.


43 posted on 01/27/2005 11:06:46 AM PST by NeoCaveman (OK, so now who is the true evil genious Rove or Belicheck?)
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To: dubyaismypresident

Q. Does the Bush Administration support the Law of the Sea Convention?

A. Yes. The Bush Administration strongly supports U.S. accession to the Law of the Sea Convention. The Law of the Sea was one of only five treaties that the Administration placed in its “urgent” category on their most recent Treaty Priority List. Representatives from the Department of State, the Office of the Secretary of Defense, the U.S. Navy, and the U.S. Coast Guard testified in support of the Convention at hearings in October before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. The Administration helped write the resolution of advice and consent accompanying the treaty. Representatives of the State Department, the Office of Secretary of Defense, the Navy, the Coast Guard, the Justice Department, the Commerce Department, and the EPA participated in this interagency drafting process.


44 posted on 01/27/2005 11:11:00 AM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: davidosborne

What's your point? So the president supports it, at least he says he supports it. So what. There was only one man who was right all the time and he got crucified.


45 posted on 01/27/2005 11:15:03 AM PST by NeoCaveman (OK, so now who is the true evil genious Rove or Belicheck?)
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To: davidosborne

Call Senator Inhofe's office. He's been instrumental in blocking this thing in the past.


46 posted on 01/27/2005 11:16:12 AM PST by NeoCaveman (OK, so now who is the true evil genious Rove or Belicheck?)
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To: dubyaismypresident

my point is if we are going to fight this one and win.. it will be a tough fight.. I would like to know the specific language in the treaty that we are opposing to make a good argument... it is 300 pages and I have not found the "offensive" language, unless of course we are opposing just on the fact that it gives the UN some "authority" which is fine, but not a strong enough argument to win.


47 posted on 01/27/2005 11:35:08 AM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: davidosborne

Check out Gaffney's website. Centerforsecuritypolic.org.

You are correct in that we need to get the problems with this down to soundbite form. This would be a worthy freeper project.

It takes 2/3's passage in the Senate to ratify a treaty, unless they sneak it in on a voice vote in the middle of the night, like they did the Desertification treaty.


48 posted on 01/27/2005 11:40:32 AM PST by NeoCaveman (OK, so now who is the true evil genious Rove or Belicheck?)
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To: dubyaismypresident

thats exactly what will happen.. it will be passed by UC, to avoid a roll call vote, unless we can come up with a good reason to oppose it


49 posted on 01/27/2005 11:44:27 AM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: davidosborne
Technology transfers,
loss of soverignty,
putting a corrupt organization like the people who ran Oil For Food in charge of anything.

These are a start for talking points

A good resource would be to look up what others who have opposed it said, such as Ronald Reagan and Jesse Helms.

50 posted on 01/27/2005 11:51:48 AM PST by NeoCaveman (OK, so now who is the true evil genious Rove or Belicheck?)
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To: Iam1ru1-2
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51 posted on 01/27/2005 12:00:38 PM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: dubyaismypresident

I could not find that in the language of the treaty.. im sure its there.. i just have not read the 300pages


52 posted on 01/27/2005 12:08:07 PM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: davidosborne
Regarding your question, that thread was automatically pulled when its poster got banned.

I just restored it.

53 posted on 01/27/2005 12:34:25 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

Thanks.. sorry for the double ping


54 posted on 01/27/2005 12:36:00 PM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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