[Protagoras]

My point is simply that, the way the govt wastes money, if they are going to do it anyway, make the recipients culpable in some way.

My point is that conservatives should oppose this at every possible turn.

Your idea concedes the main point.

[conservativebabe]

I digress.

[Modernman]

My point is that conservatives should oppose this at every possible turn.

In my more cynical moments, I have to agree with Bill Kristol- the welfare state isn't going anywhere, so conservatives should focus on making it work better.

It's still tough to see how tax-payer funded cosmetic surgery should be part of even our out-of-control welfare state, though.