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To: DaiHuy

I don't see anything about the war on terror that constitutes an assault on the Constitution. That war is for our survival - if we don't fight it we have no rights at all under our enemy's thumb. The WoD on the other hand is just gratuitous violence, hypocrisy, and is the source of the most egregious violations of the Constitution. There's no equivalence.


10 posted on 01/27/2005 4:02:49 PM PST by thoughtomator (How do you say Berkeley California in Aramaic?)
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To: thoughtomator
I don't see anything about the war on terror that constitutes an assault on the Constitution.

Try Total Information Awareness and is successors.

A government that keeps the borders leaky and spies on its citizenry isn't worth defending.

15 posted on 01/27/2005 4:08:42 PM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: thoughtomator
I submit that the gratuitous violence, hypocrisy and egregious violations of liberty come from dopers.

The USC was written to reign in government, but at the very same time the USC was written, many state and local governments had extremely strict laws governing substance abuse. THe USC did not erase any of them. These local laws reflected the concerns of society and protected the rights and liberties of individual citizens from the abuses brought upon them by drunks and dopers.

The Fe'ral government got involved when moonshiners and dope runners got too well organized and powerful for local governments to manage - the same reason why we have a national military rather than a generic call of arms of all able bodied men.

Dopers who say idiotic things like you have uttered are the reason why the Fe'ral government had to get involved - because dopers were causing a societal crisis. You may no t have a problem with open drug sales on the street, and you may find it amusing to find homeless people throwing-up and dieing on your front lawn. You may pooh-pooh the hundreds of billions of dollars of costs on society - a needless expense that is incurred because of thoughtless self-centered clods thinks that doping themselves into oblivion is some sort of Constitutionally protected Right.

The Constitution was made for honest, self-regulating, moral people. Dopers, who demonstrate an obvious absence of common sense and self-control, are not suited for the USC, they are suited best under strict supervision by responsible people.

If dopers didn't want the Fe'ral Government cracking down on civil rights - then quit assaulting society with your dangerous and costly habits.

45 posted on 01/27/2005 5:13:50 PM PST by Reuben Hick
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To: thoughtomator

Read the "patriot act" lately


73 posted on 01/27/2005 6:55:50 PM PST by DaiHuy (Jesus is Lord.)
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