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To: Wolfie

Someone needs to explain to me how come we needed a constitutional amendment to make the sale of alcool a federal crime, but didn't need one to pass our insane and draconian drug laws.

I will never understand why conservatives support federal anti-drug laws.


2 posted on 01/27/2005 3:44:01 PM PST by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: Maceman

Maceman, I have the answer, seriously. It is because "they" are bigger and better armed than "them". "They" being the government and "them" being drug users. The Constitution has nothing to do with it, just as in this stupid ruling. Just who's bigger and better armed.


4 posted on 01/27/2005 3:47:35 PM PST by jammer
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To: Maceman

Maceman, I have the answer, seriously. It is because "they" are bigger and better armed than "them". "They" being the government and "them" being drug users. The Constitution has nothing to do with it, just as in this stupid ruling. Just who's bigger and better armed.


5 posted on 01/27/2005 3:48:31 PM PST by jammer
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To: Maceman
"I will never understand why conservatives support federal anti-drug laws."

I'm in total agreement. I don't see how a conservative could support action by the government that's so backward and dysfunctional.

6 posted on 01/27/2005 3:50:44 PM PST by KoRn
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To: Maceman

Let's call a spade a spade, the "war on drugs" and the "war on terror" is nothing more than an assault on the Constitution.


7 posted on 01/27/2005 3:53:36 PM PST by DaiHuy (Jesus is Lord.)
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To: Maceman

"Someone needs to explain to me how come we needed a constitutional amendment to make the sale of alcool a federal crime, but didn't need one to pass our insane and draconian drug laws. "

Maybe you should go and talk to the owner of a rental home that just found out from the Local Police, that the jackass who was renting it was busted this morning for operating a Methamphetamine Laboratory in the rental home for the last six months.

The Police have known about it for six months, and it took this long to bust it because they were trying to wade through the paperwork required to bust his tenant. In the meantime, they documented all of the traffic in and out of the house.

Be sure to catch him after he's inspected the house and found out that it has been Officially declared "Unfit for Human Habitation", because of the toxic chemicals that are soaked through the carpet, through the subfloor, all over the foundation beams, and into the subsoil under the house.

Get ahold of him before he finds out what the cost will be to have all of that now toxic bui8lding material removed and disposed of in a special Hazmat Landfill, and all of the contaminated soil hand-dug out of the crawlspace, disposed of, and the hole refilled with clean soil.

And be sure to catch him before he finds out that his Homeowner's Policy doesn't cover a Tenant's illegal activity.

You won't like his answer, but I would love to be around to watch you ask.


11 posted on 01/27/2005 4:03:21 PM PST by Bean Counter (Revote or Revolt!)
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To: Maceman
Someone needs to explain to me how come we needed a constitutional amendment to make the sale of alcool a federal crime, but didn't need one to pass our insane and draconian drug laws.

IMO, the Seventeenth Amendment is one of the main culprits. One of the most important checks on Federal power was tossed out the window when State legislatures ceased appointing senators.

This has also affected the selection of Federal judges, since the Senate must approve them.

I will never understand why conservatives support federal anti-drug laws.

I'd guess financial self-interest, in many cases.

14 posted on 01/27/2005 4:04:40 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Maceman
I will never understand why conservatives support federal anti-drug laws.

There's an important subset of 'conservatives' who feel powerless and want to identify with a government that "kicks ass and takes names".

23 posted on 01/27/2005 4:24:41 PM PST by Grut
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To: Maceman
I will never understand why conservatives support federal anti-drug laws.

Count me out. The federal government has done lots of stupid and awful things but way up at the top are the WOD and the establishment of the Department of Education.

28 posted on 01/27/2005 4:28:23 PM PST by Bahbah
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To: Maceman

These cases are pretty common in Illinois. State Police have a program called "Valkyrie" where they look for suspicious folk, pull them over on some pretext, then ask for consent to search (which they frequently obtain). Illinois has some pretty well-developed case law on stops, and I don't think that police will be able to extend the length of a routine stop to give the K-9 time to get there. If the dog's around handy, fine, but if you have to wait longer than it would reasonable take to get the ticket, they will have a problem.

It is a strange rationale that depends on the 100% reliability of dogs' ability to sniff out drugs. By this rationale, any technology that will seek out only contraband without implicating legitimate privacy/property interests will be allowed. Creative prosecutors and police may give us some interesting issues.


50 posted on 01/27/2005 5:36:24 PM PST by SalukiLawyer (12" Powerbook, Airport, surfing FR anywhere I want to)
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To: Maceman
It's really very simple. The Constitution is a dead letter. It was declared null and void in the named of the war on drugs for years now. No need to amend a document that no longer has relavance.
88 posted on 01/27/2005 8:45:50 PM PST by zeugma (Come to the Dark Side...... We have cookies!)
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