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crosswalk ^ | 2004 | creationist

Posted on 01/28/2005 4:28:41 PM PST by metacognative

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To: Heartlander
For those with short attention spans, this is the relevant passage you omitted:

We preach freedom of religion, but only so far. If your religion advocates slavery, or mutilation of women, or infanticide, or puts a price on Salman Rushdie's head because he has insulted it, then your religion has a feature that cannot be respected. It endangers us all.

681 posted on 01/30/2005 5:57:21 PM PST by js1138
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To: Ichneumon
Now a question for others on the thread -- do you abhor, or do you excuse metacognative's false slander?

I find it very UN-CHRISTIAN. I don't understand how they resolve their false witness with the Creator.

682 posted on 01/30/2005 5:58:05 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Ichneumon
stop pestering

Let not reality intrude on the Precious Theory.

683 posted on 01/30/2005 5:59:45 PM PST by bvw
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To: tallhappy
There is no equivalent yet in evolutionary biology now

Yet. Just as there was nothing theorized about spin states when Bohr designed his hydrogen model.

684 posted on 01/30/2005 6:00:31 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: js1138

I linked the source for all to see…


685 posted on 01/30/2005 6:01:36 PM PST by Heartlander
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To: tallhappy
How many species are there?

How many stars are there? At what point can we generalize about the energy sources of stars?

686 posted on 01/30/2005 6:02:06 PM PST by js1138
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To: bvw

Yes.


687 posted on 01/30/2005 6:03:31 PM PST by mississippi red-neck
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To: WildTurkey

So you admit there's nothing "hard science" quite yet about mammal-level species evolution! Yet you HOPE that there will be. The hope is fine -- just know it for what it is -- hope and not reality.


688 posted on 01/30/2005 6:04:01 PM PST by bvw
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To: bvw

Quoting out of context to "prove" someone said the opposite of what they really said is a lie. It took me thirty second to find out that the quote was an out of context lie.

It is not a mistake. It is a lie. A pure, premeditated, deliberate falsehood.


689 posted on 01/30/2005 6:04:40 PM PST by js1138
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To: bvw
Maxwell's demon.

Maxwell'w demon was supposed to decrease entropy, not increase it. (Increasing it is trivially easy. Do some work.) It turned out upon closer examination it could only do so by increasing its own entropy to the meltdown point.

690 posted on 01/30/2005 6:06:04 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: NRA Patriot 1976

..."but you realized that NO life in any form existed until only a billion years ago."

You, sir or madame, are exploding your cover as you speak. Fossilized microorganisms from 3.5 billion years ago are well established.


691 posted on 01/30/2005 6:06:17 PM PST by furball4paws ("These are Microbes."... "You have crobes?" BC)
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To: Heartlander
I linked the source for all to see…

If you had intended for people to see the entire quotation in context you would not have snipped out a piece that appears to be the opposite of the author's intentions.

If you were a truthful person you and your cohorts would not have mischaracterized the author's intentions.

If you were a truthful person you would have exposed the lie yourself, rather than reinforce it.

692 posted on 01/30/2005 6:09:23 PM PST by js1138
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To: bvw
That last post of yours is no proof. It could have a mistake on m-c's part.

Innocent mistakes get corrected.
False creationist quotes never get corrected.
Therefore, creationist quotes are not innocent mistakes.

Almost none of you people ever correct yourselves or apologize. For most of you, it's never, as in never ever. You brazen, or play dumb, or just "Well, how about THIS then" into a new subject.

And we're not supposed to notice what's going on?

693 posted on 01/30/2005 6:13:27 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: js1138
If you were a truthful person you and your cohorts would not have mischaracterized the author's intentions.

But type the words "Lying for the Lord" and watch them screech and pelt you with dung.

694 posted on 01/30/2005 6:14:41 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
The demon -- being demonic -- could increase or decrease the entropy.

You are right about the the demon decreasing entropy. I was caught in a mental misfire due to superposition of "entropys" I was thinking information (CE Shannon type bits) entropy, and while dealing with the question which was about thermodynamic entropy -- where the higher energy group bottled in one room will flow over to the lower energy group in the other room through the Hall of the Demon.

Personally it seems to me in social situtations that the flow goes the other way -- maybe we all have a bit of Maxwell's Demon in us.

695 posted on 01/30/2005 6:16:54 PM PST by bvw
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To: VadeRetro

I do occasionally think of that scene from "2001" ...


696 posted on 01/30/2005 6:17:52 PM PST by js1138
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To: js1138

The thing you two share might be viral. Whatever, it doesn;t accord truth much, and human mercy less.


697 posted on 01/30/2005 6:19:18 PM PST by bvw
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To: js1138

Look, I linked to Internet Infidels - a Darwin friendly forum. I did this intentionally so it would not be disregarded immediately as propaganda and I said, “this is all I could find”, followed by , “FWIW”. Now other things were said by Dennett that I can bring to light – or Dawkins, or Scott... etc… You are welcome to call my bluff.


698 posted on 01/30/2005 6:19:25 PM PST by Heartlander
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To: js1138

I bet you dream you are HAL, eh?


699 posted on 01/30/2005 6:20:09 PM PST by bvw
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To: bvw
The demon -- being demonic -- could increase or decrease the entropy.

If the demon is allowed to use magic, it can really violate the Second Law. But that amounts to giving the demon a demon. If you make it use physical principles to detect molecules and manipulate the trap door, the Second Law is preserved.

700 posted on 01/30/2005 6:21:19 PM PST by VadeRetro
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