Posted on 01/29/2005 12:12:54 AM PST by timestax
CITY MIGHT APPEAL POLICE RULING The ruling may lead to a court-ordered plan under which city or police officials could be jailed or fined for future violations.
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At 2:13 in the morning of 7 April 2001, just after the bars closed, two officers of the Cincinnati police spotted a man wanted on 14 criminal charges walking down Vine Street. When the man saw the police, he ran. It wasn't the first time he'd run from police, either. This man had successfully evaded arrest by running away on two previous occasions.
The two officers chased him south on Vine, east on 13th Street, south on Jackson Street, then west on 12th Street. More police joined the chase as word of it spread. One of them, Officer Steve Roach, saw the suspect jump over a fence. Officer Roach left his squad car, chased the fleeing man a ways, and then fired his weapon, bringing the fugitive down with a fatal wound.
I would like to add, the officer fired his weapon AFTER noting that the man fleeing had reached for his pants (apparently to pull his oversized pants up while running. How was the Police officer able to determine whether or not this fugitive was reaching for a weapon or not?
After the riot, the "strong" Cincinnati Mayor Charles Luken started spewing apologies to the Blacks for the shooting of a petty Black criminal who had gambled a third time on his fast feet and lost. If he had any apologies for the White people who suffered at Black rioters' hands while the police were huddled at City Hall, I haven't heard about it. When this mighty mayor was prompted by state officials to request a Justice Department investigation of police conduct, he leaped to throw Officer Roach to the federals. He probably welcomed the relief it gave him from the dilemma, on the one hand, of angering the Blacks with a recognition that Officer Roach had done nothing wrong or, on the other hand, of angering his police with an improper (and too obviously political) reprimand. That is, letting the federal government decide what to do with Officer Roach gave Mayor Luken a way to evade responsibility. Some tough guy, huh?
Wednesday, December 03, 2003
CINCINNATI — The coroner said Wednesday that a struggle with police was the primary cause in the death of a 350-pound black man whose scuffle with officers outside a fast-food restaurant has prompted outcry among black activists in Cincinnati.
Hamilton County Coroner Carl Parrott said Nathaniel Jones (search),41, suffered from an enlarged heart, obesity and had intoxicating levels of cocaine, PCP and methanol in his blood.
Parrott said the death will be ruled a homicide, but added that such a ruling "should not be interpreted as implying inappropriate behavior or the use of excessive force by police."
I will add here that by watching the videos of this experience, the man was repreatedly told to get down on the ground, but did not obey the police. He actually stood to fight with the officers.
Jones' death certificate will list a cause of death as an irregular heart beat because of a stress reaction from the violent struggle, Parrott said.
Activists say Jones' death was another example of brutality by Cincinnati police against blacks in a city that was rocked by race riots two years ago.
Jones died Sunday after being taken into custody in the parking lot of a White Castle restaurant. A police cruiser video camera showed Jones lunge at officers, who repeatedly hit him with metal nightsticks
during the struggle.
Cincinnati Police Officers, move. Or better yet, take care of the neighborhoods that need protection and stay away from the other neighborhoods until they ask for your help.
That is the only way there will ever be a resolution between Police and citizens in Cinci. Police have to risk their lives daily, they do not need the added risk of losing their jobs or being accused of as racists.
There is more to it than you know. I work in the inner city of Cincinnati. It is like living in Mosul.
The 'strong' mayor did the city in during the April, 2001 riots. I was in a truck at the time and had the radio on. The report was like:
"The rioters are marching down Walnut Street breaking windows and throwing rocks. The police are following. The rioters are marching east on 6th street breaking windows, the police are following. The rioters are marching north on Main Street breaking windows and overturning vending carts, the police are following."
Why didn't Charlie call in cops to block them off and arrest them at any time? I lost a business because of his ineptness that day.
I live in Columbus but follow the news in Cinci.
Mayor Lukens appears to have no backbone.
Charlie Luken did absolutely nothing to protect the business owners downtown, he has absolutely no spine whatsoever. It amazes me that this guy is still holding his job.
Other than my husband having to work downtown, we will not go there, regardless of what festivities are going on (although I did make an exception to go downtown for the Bush rally).
No city like Cincinnati should've had to impose a curfew; the Police should have arrested the criminals, instead of apologizing to them.
I hate the fact that as a KY resident we have to pay taxes to Cincinnati just to be employed there, yet when my husband leaves work at night, he is hassled by aggressive panhandlers and the like.
Hopefully, as more and more businesses move out of the city, people will begin to wake up and realize the problems stem from a totally inept city management.
The City has been poorly "managed" for years. I put it in quotes, because it is really more chaos than management.
The way they knuckled under to the rioters and the group of so called reverends that instigated the riot was incredible.
Then they knuckled in to the Justice Dept. on the "profiling". In the inner city, blacks commit almost 100% of the crime. It is not profiling. It is just common sense. (Most prostitutes now are white, for some reason.)
Now I understand the police are going to on a slowdown or strike while working.
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this sort of thing is Pete-Repeat all over America.
Is that kind of like thinking a tyrant is threatening your country with WMD? And after you act to disarm him, it turns out you can't find any weapons. Does that change the fact that you felt threatened at the time you acted?
Funny how the liberals always take the side of the "victim" and AFTER THE FACT insinuate that the policeman should have known the perp was unarmed all along.
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Correct diagnosis. I think the situation is hopeless here. All City Council (aka the Village Idiots) ever seem to do is demogogue everyone for the benefit of the TV cameras.
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