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Just two points:

1. "We have power in terms of black registered voters across the country to impact who sits in the White House" doesn't sound like much of a bragaining chip since only a few % voted for President Bush in the first place.

2. "The Holy Spirit has caused this coming together." Are these guys sure that they're not really "radical right-wing Fundamentalist Christians" ?

1 posted on 01/29/2005 10:48:42 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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So, God told them to tell the President to raise their taxes, eh?


2 posted on 01/29/2005 10:51:45 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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lot's of demands for for a minuscule % of black votes...
3 posted on 01/29/2005 10:52:30 AM PST by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com/)
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Okay Freepers, let's have a great big collective 'YAWN' in sympathy. Altogether now...


4 posted on 01/29/2005 10:53:31 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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...declared their opposition to the war in Iraq and to the nomination and expected confirmation of Alberto Gonzales as attorney general.

They also called for a higher minimum wage, discontinuation of recent tax cuts, investment in public education and reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, some provisions of which are up for review in 2007.

"We have power in terms of black registered voters across the country to impact who sits in the White House..."

Hmmm... seems that power should have been used last cycle... the demands would appear to run contrary to present policy elaborated by elected officials

Well... is this a starter or non-starter? Good-faith initial conditions bargaining position or simply sabre-rattling demagoguery?

6 posted on 01/29/2005 10:57:37 AM PST by March I up
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"...issuing a list of demands..."

Stuff your freaking list, morons.


7 posted on 01/29/2005 10:59:08 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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Black Baptist leaders put demands to Bush

STFU.

8 posted on 01/29/2005 11:01:53 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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"We want 'The Man' to continue to keep us down."


9 posted on 01/29/2005 11:03:18 AM PST by kenth (my dog ate my tagline)
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"Leaders also demanded that Bush stop privatization of prison construction"

What the..I know it is a small point but I don`t get the fuss about this one.Unions?

Baptists in name only.Notice no mention of Jesus or salvation.

10 posted on 01/29/2005 11:05:42 AM PST by carlr
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Yeah, yeah, render unto God that which is God's... now give us a big old piece of Ceasar's action!!


11 posted on 01/29/2005 11:07:42 AM PST by niteowl77
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ROTFLMAO

They think sKerry won the election, HELLO????/

12 posted on 01/29/2005 11:07:52 AM PST by Mister Baredog (PLEASE be sure you have a flag up on your FReeper homepage.!!!)
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Dateline January 2105:

African Americans still whining. African Americans still victims. African Americans still demanding "justice". Congressional Black Caucus meets with President to damand.............blah, blah, blah, etc., etc., etc., and on and on and on,...


13 posted on 01/29/2005 11:08:15 AM PST by garyhope
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Now let's see what we have. These are "religious" leaders, Baptists in particular. But all of their demands on the President are "political" ones. Are they treating their congregations as if they were precincts in Democrat primaries? If so, is there any reason for any Republican to take them seriously?

Congressman Billybob [TWO different columns this week]

Click for latest, "Homer, Shakespeare, Pope, and George Bush"

Click for latest, "Dusty Rhodes, a Death in the Family"

17 posted on 01/29/2005 11:19:42 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.)
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Poor babies, whining their lives away!

WTFU! (first word is wake) :)


18 posted on 01/29/2005 11:22:23 AM PST by blackie
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And we already had hope that blacks would step out of the darkness.
What is it that that blacks got for block voting at 95% for Democrats during all those years.
How far have Democrats brought them along when representing their most loyal constituents?
One thinks that a light bulb eventually lights up, to enlighten these people that the Reverend and his ilk took them for a ride.
Stop blaming Bush, he offered more for education and met each and every monetary demand that Ted Kennedy asked for.
What did Bush get: First there were not enough skilled teachers, then the usual standard, it's not enough money, and finally criticism during the election.
This wake up call not to listen to the same old drummers is way overdue.
Go vote for Bush, he does what he says. No hollow promises.


19 posted on 01/29/2005 11:22:24 AM PST by hermgem
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." Are these guys sure that they're not really "radical right-wing Fundamentalist Christians" ?

I usually am not one to question the faith of another, but in this case I believe they have left faith behind and have turned to leftist political operatives. Has the phrase "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and unto God what is God" been left out of their core Book? This doesn't mean that as Christians we stand on the sidelines and watch the world go by,but the demands of this group goes beyond what Christians should be about and doing, which is spreading the Gospel.


20 posted on 01/29/2005 11:23:17 AM PST by taxesareforever
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"We have power in terms of black registered voters across the country to impact who sits in the White House"

Oh rubbish. You have no power here. Now be gone before someone drops a house on you, too."


21 posted on 01/29/2005 11:28:53 AM PST by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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"They also called for a higher minimum wage, discontinuation of recent tax cuts, investment in public education. . . ."

Anyone can see that these are taken directly from the "talking points" of the Far Left Democrats, and demonstrate clearly the impact of the DISinformation campaign by the Left.

1. A higher minimum wage . . . .
No one handles this subject more intelligently and plainly than Dr. Walter Williams--who is infinitely better at articulating what is best for Blacks than a Ted Kennedy or John Kerry. You'd think the Black Pastors would consult him or Thomas Sowell, but apparently they prefer the expertise of Kennedy/Kerry. A search for Williams' writings on this subject would produce many results, but here is part of just one:

" Jewish World Review Nov. 12, 2003 / 17 Mar-Cheshvan, 5764
Walter Williams(Note date above}

"Presidential aspirant Rep. Dick Gephardt, D-Mo., unwittingly performed a public service in his address to the Teamsters Local 238 in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, last month. He revealed the true agenda behind so much of the support for minimum wages. He pledged that if he became president he'd press the World Trade Organization to establish an international minimum wage -- one that he says is high enough so that American workers are not competing with slave, sweat-shop and child labor around the world.

"History has seen many calls for minimum wages for the same reason -- to eliminate competition with workers who'd work for less. During South Africa's apartheid era, white unionists argued "in absence of statutory minimum wages, employers found it profitable to supplant highly trained (and usually highly paid) Europeans by less efficient but cheaper non-whites."

"One South African union leader said, "There is no job reservation left in the building industry, and in the circumstances I support the rate for the job (minimum wages) as the second best way of protecting our white artisans."

"The South African Nursing Association condemned low wages received by black nurses as unfair. Some nurses said they wouldn't accept wage increases until the wages of black nurses were raised. These are but several of numerous examples of calls for minimum wages cited in my 1989 book, "South Africa's War Against Capitalism." You can bet the farm that these calls for minimum wages for blacks didn't represent white compassion for the welfare of blacks. Minimum wages are simply one of the most effective tools in the arsenals of racists everywhere. ". . . . ". . .when we analyze the effects of policy, we can almost always ignore policy intentions.

"One effect of minimum wages is that of discrimination against the employment of less-preferred workers. A worker might be less-preferred in the eyes of a particular employer in a number of ways. He might be low-skilled, less intelligent, or a different nationality or race. Put yourself in the place of an employer, and ask: If the law requires me to pay, say, $9 an hour, no matter whom I hire, does it pay me to hire someone who has skills enabling him to produce only $5 worth of value per hour? Most people would view hiring such a worker as a losing economic proposition.

"Are low-skilled workers made better or worse off as a result of the $9 minimum wage? It's almost a no-brainer to conclude that being hired at $5 an hour puts more food on the table than not being hired at $9. What's more, minimum wages reduce training opportunities. Most of us gain skills through on-the-job-training. Minimum wage laws deny that opportunity.

"A more insidious effect of minimum wages, as racists everywhere know, is that it lowers discrimination costs. Say a white and a black were equally productive and an employer prefers white workers to black workers. Since he has to pay $9 an hour no matter whom he hires, the cost of discriminating against the black worker is zero. But if it were legal for the black worker to offer a lower price, there'd be a cost to discrimination. That's precisely why South African whites demanded that blacks be paid the minimum wages -- they wanted to cheapen discrimination costs." - [End of Williams' article]

As for Nos. 2 and 3, it does not take an economist or an education specialist to know that ending the Bush tax cuts would be bad for Black families (as it would for all others), and if these Ministers believe that increasing spending will cause an educational system to better serve them that has allowed Black youth to graduate from high school without being able to read, then they need to consult Polly Williams in Milwaukee, or many other Black leaders who have advocated Choice as a means of improving opportunity for minority youth.

22 posted on 01/29/2005 11:32:47 AM PST by loveliberty2
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...declared their opposition to the war in Iraq and to the nomination and expected confirmation of Alberto Gonzales as attorney general.

They also called for a higher minimum wage, discontinuation of recent tax cuts, investment in public education (yeah, there's no investment in PUBIC Edumakayshen now) and reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, some provisions of which are up for review in 2007.

National Baptist Convention of America......GFY's.

FMCDH(BITS)

23 posted on 01/29/2005 11:34:24 AM PST by nothingnew (Kerry is gone...perhaps to Lake Woebegone)
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If you check the word etymology of "spirit" is comes
from a Hebrew word meaning "wind." They're certainly
breaking alot of that. But it's the old leftist position:
We're spending too much on things like defense. We don't
want a smaller, less intrusive government or less
spending - NO, we want to piss the money away on more
programs that benefit US!


24 posted on 01/29/2005 11:40:35 AM PST by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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This Rev makes as much sense as Hillary clinton IMHO.We are going to take from you for the common good.
25 posted on 01/29/2005 11:58:56 AM PST by solo gringo (Liberal democrats are parasites)
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