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Medical Marijuana Cards Abound
The Oregonian ^ | January 23, 2005 | Don Colburn

Posted on 01/30/2005 10:14:46 AM PST by robertpaulsen

Nearly 10,000 Oregonians carry medical marijuana cards, about 20 times more than officials predicted when the program started six years ago.

The fee-based program, which gets no money from the state general fund, has grown so fast that it built up a cash surplus of nearly $1 million last year. To reduce the surplus, officials slashed the annual fee for a medical marijuana card from $150 to $55 this month. For Oregon Health Plan patients, the fee dropped to $20.

The number of cardholders has doubled in less than two years. Between 80 and 100 new or renewal applications arrive on a typical day, said Pam Salsbury, who manages the state's medical marijuana office in the Department of Human Services. "I don't think anybody in their wildest dreams thought there would be this many people in the program," Salsbury said. "We're hearing from other states that have a program and wonder how we do it."

Critics say the unforeseen growth shows that medical marijuana cards can serve as a cover for recreational drug use. Defenders say it reflects growing acceptance, by doctors and patients, of marijuana as an alternative to mainstream medicine. Oregon is one of 10 states where medical marijuana use is legal. The others are Alaska, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Montana, Nevada, Vermont and Washington. The laws vary widely.

Oregon's Medical Marijuana Act, approved by voters in 1998, allows residents to use a small amount of marijuana for medical purposes. They must grow their own or designate a caregiver to do so for them. A doctor must verify that the patient has a "debilitating medical condition" such as cancer, glaucoma or AIDS, or a symptom such as nausea or severe pain. The doctor's signature does not count as a prescription.

More than 1,500 Oregon doctors have signed at least one patient application, according to state figures through 2004. But 10 doctors account for two-thirds of the current and pending marijuana card requests. Each of those 10 physicians has signed more than 100 applications, and the top two have signed 2,796 and 1,783 apiece. The state does not divulge the names of participating doctors.

"Loopholes for abuse"

"Unquestionably, people are taking advantage of a system that was created for individuals with medical problems," said Ken Magee, the Drug Enforcement Administration's agent in charge of operations for Oregon and Idaho. The federal agency, he noted, considers marijuana a dangerous drug with no medicinal value. Oregon's medical marijuana program has a "very lax system of review and oversight," Magee said. "The law is riddled with loopholes for abuse." Qualifying conditions such as "severe pain" or "persistent muscle spasms" are so vague that they allow little rigorous control over misuse, he said.

More than 80 percent of the current cardholders cited severe pain on their applications. About 30 percent cited persistent muscle spasms, and 22 percent cited nausea. Applicants often give more than one medical reason.

Colorado's 4-year-old medical marijuana program is modeled on Oregon's. Despite a larger population, Colorado has only 504 cardholders, about one-twentieth as many as Oregon. After an Oregon patient's application for a medical marijuana card is complete, Salsbury said, the state sends the signing doctor a letter. The doctor must sign a second form verifying that he or she did see the patient and did approve the card request. Once the application is complete and verified, she said, the state issues a card. Under the law, officials don't evaluate motives. "That's not for us to question," she said.

State disciplines two doctors

Two doctors -- Dr. Phillip Leveque of Molalla and Dr. Larry Bogart of Roseburg -- have been disciplined by the Oregon Board of Medical Examiners for inappropriate recommendation of medical marijuana. The board regulates medical practice.

Leveque, an 81-year-old osteopath, had his license suspended in March and revoked in October. He said he had signed several thousand medical marijuana requests.

The board in October also stripped Bogart, a 66-year-old psychiatrist who said he has signed more than 1,000 medical marijuana applications during the past five years, of his ability to treat children, prescribe controlled drugs or sign marijuana card applications. He retains his license.

The Oregon Medical Association, the largest physicians group in the state, stayed neutral on the original medical marijuana law in 1998. The association opposed a ballot measure last November that would have broadened the law, easing restrictions on allowable limits and creating state-regulated dispensaries to sell marijuana to cardholders.

A federal appeals court in California ruled in 2003 against the Bush administration's bid to punish doctors who recommend medical marijuana to their patients. Since that court opinion, fewer doctors in Oregon are afraid to sign medical marijuana card requests, said Jim Kronenberg, the medical association's chief operating officer. "We continue to encourage our members to be very circumspect about how they participate," he said. Doctors are urged to keep careful records and avoid even the appearance of prescribing an illegal drug.

Advocate sees more acceptance

John Sajo, who heads Voter Power, an advocacy group for medical marijuana users, attributed the rapid growth in the Oregon program to increasing acceptance by doctors. He said marijuana helps some patients avoid more potent and expensive prescription drugs. "It's not just the patients saying they feel better," he said. "It's also the patients saying: 'And don't write me the morphine prescription anymore.' "

Others say marijuana is a "gateway drug" that can lead to using more addictive drugs.

"We're making a big mistake in making marijuana available," said Walt Myers, Salem police chief and head of Gov. Ted Kulongoski's task force on methamphetamine. "There are enough drugs on the market that will relieve the pain of any disease known to mankind, without resorting to marijuana."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; medicalmarijuana; oregon; wodlist
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To: robertpaulsen
me: "By your own arguments, the government should add alcohol to the list of prohibited drugs"

you: They tried that once, and it only lasted 13 short years. You think they should try the same thing again?

Nice example of projection ("The attribution of one's own attitudes, feelings, or desires to someone or something as a naive or unconscious defense against anxiety or guilt.")(8b)

No sarcasm meant, but your posts in this thread are admirable in that you are apparently questioning your assumptions:

post 102 has your sources describing how harmful marijuana is;

in post 109 you accuse someone ("Your agenda isn't the sick and dying. Your agenda is legal recreational marijuana.") of what in

post 117, you assume is a great idea. ("The argument is: Make marijuana legal and regulate it. Like alcohol, this will reduce teen accessibility.")

You're learning, robert. This is good!
121 posted on 02/06/2005 1:10:58 PM PST by clyde asbury ("Think" is a verb.)
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To: clyde asbury
--- consenting adults have convinced themselves that since they're not directly harming anyone, no one will notice what they're doing.

The fact that they're indirectly harming their family, friends, neighbors, co-workers, employers, and society in general, never occurs to these selfish, immoral, individualistic hedonists.

116 robertpaulsen







That's it, then.

Using "individualistic" as a criticism reveals you for what you are, robert.

You're a collectivist who favors big government to tell its ignorant citizens what is best for them.
Blindly following the dictates of "societal acceptance" is your civic responsibility, and you assume it is for everyone else, too.

The fact that it isn't irritates you to no end.
118 clyde asbury






Well put Clyde.

-- Paulsen has been 'outing' himself like this several times a week lately, and more & more people here are becoming aware of his communitarian agenda.
Sad, confused little fella, but he does make a good punching bag for conservatism.
122 posted on 02/06/2005 1:48:24 PM PST by jonestown ( Those who give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither --- Ben F.)
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To: jonestown
Paulsen has been 'outing' himself like this several times a week lately,

At this rate, he will soon prove black is white, and get run over when he crosses the street.
123 posted on 02/06/2005 2:00:26 PM PST by clyde asbury ("Think" is a verb.)
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To: robertpaulsen

Rodney Dangerfield was a licensed medical marijuana user.


124 posted on 02/06/2005 2:09:13 PM PST by wideminded
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To: jonestown
rp and friends-
125 posted on 02/06/2005 2:13:05 PM PST by pageonetoo (you'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: pageonetoo; jonestown; clyde asbury
Maybe when you three stop your circle jerk, you'll actually add something to the thread.

Gasp!

126 posted on 02/06/2005 2:29:57 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Maybe when you three stop your circle jerk, you'll actually add something to the thread.

If you wanted this thread in the SBR, you should have posted it there.

127 posted on 02/06/2005 2:31:49 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: wideminded
"Rodney Dangerfield was a licensed medical marijuana user."

"In 2004, Dangerfield's autobiography, It's Not Easy Bein' Me: A Lifetime of No Respect but Plenty of Sex and Drugs was published. The book's original title was My Love Affair With Marijuana, a reference to the drug he smoked daily for sixty years."
-- wikipedia.org

Wow. He was sick for 60 years. Poor guy.

128 posted on 02/06/2005 2:38:12 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
robertpaulsen wrote:

Maybe when you three stop your circle jerk, you'll actually add something to the thread.

Gasp!






I'll admit, we are gathered here laughing at a jerk..

But what can be added to your threads pitiful attempt at trolling?
129 posted on 02/06/2005 2:55:35 PM PST by jonestown ( Those who give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither --- Ben F.)
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To: robertpaulsen

Why the difference of opinion between posts 109 and 117, rob?


130 posted on 02/06/2005 2:55:56 PM PST by clyde asbury ("Think" is a verb.)
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To: robertpaulsen

Brought to you by your good friends, Robert... on the other side of the coin! Toke on...

131 posted on 02/06/2005 6:38:39 PM PST by pageonetoo (you'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: robertpaulsen
A buddy of mine in So. Cal saw an ad in the L.A. Weekly a few days ago for a doc that gives away marijuana buyers' licenses/cards like candy, so he went down to his office to check it out. The doc wasn't in -- just the receptionist. ....And she didn't ask him one question about any health condition, not surprisingly. Took his cash though -- $100 for a license. ...and made him sign an agreement that stated that he was under the direct care of the doc in question.

Conveniently enough, right upstairs in the same building (in the mid-Wilshire district) was a marijuana buyers' club. (The receptionist informed him of this, of course). Highest quality bud imaginable, he tells me. ....from nearly every ganga-growning nation on earth. Young people with white lab coats behind the counters. Street prices -- $480/oz.

In CA it's a felony to be in possession of more than 1 oz of mj (any amount under that is just a misdemeanor. .....IF it's determined that you're not selling it), but from what he tells me a card holder can be in legal possession of up to 8 ozs.

132 posted on 02/06/2005 6:54:41 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
"In CA it's a felony to be in possession of more than 1 oz of mj (any amount under that is just a misdemeanor. .....IF it's determined that you're not selling it), but from what he tells me a card holder can be in legal possession of up to 8 ozs."

Correct.

"Senate Bill 420, which was signed into law in October 2003 and took effect on January 1, 2004, imposes statewide guidelines outlining how much medicinal marijuana patients may grow and possess. Under the guidelines, qualified patients and/or their primary caregivers may possess no more than eight ounces of dried marijuana and/or six mature (or 12 immature) marijuana plants. However, S.B. 420 allows patients to possess larger amounts of marijuana when such quantities are recommended by a physician."
-- norml.org

"Street prices -- $480/oz.

Wow! Makes that license fee look like a token amount.

Wait a minute. I thought I remember people on this very board saying that legalization will drive down the price! Oh well. What's another lie?

I posted this article because medical marijuana is a joke. A scam, being played on the American people using the sick and dying as pawns. A California survey showed that 99% of the people who visit a doctor to obtain a marijuana buyers' license were already smoking marijuana prior to their first visit.

133 posted on 02/07/2005 5:57:10 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
I posted this article because medical marijuana is a joke. A scam, being played on the American people using the sick and dying as pawns.

133 robertpaulsen






You posted this article because you're a prohibitionist, and you're desperately trying to prove medical marijuana is a scam.
You could care less that some of the sick and dying use it to ease their suffering.

All that really matters to the communitarian cause is that the majority will be done.
Name most any substance or article of property, and its use must be 'regulated' or even prohibited, --- for the good of the "American people".
-- Your position is the joke, paulsen.
134 posted on 02/07/2005 6:35:52 AM PST by jonestown ( Those who give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither --- Ben F.)
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To: robertpaulsen
Senate Bill 420

Bill 420? Hilarious. Coincidence? The meaning of 420

135 posted on 02/07/2005 8:03:21 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
Bill 420? Hilarious. Coincidence?

Sharp eye.

M, looks like you found the true joke here - besides rob, I mean.

Whoever authored that bill had the biggest laugh, and probably won a bet, too.
136 posted on 02/07/2005 7:15:57 PM PST by clyde asbury ("Think" is a verb.)
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To: clyde asbury
Whoever authored that bill had the biggest laugh, and probably won a bet, too.

lol....no doubt about it, Clyde.

Haven't visited the ganja-war threads for a while, and quite frankly I don't miss 'em. Same prohibitionist JBTs around?

137 posted on 02/07/2005 8:03:57 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
Same prohibitionist JBTs around?

Probably, but this is the only one for me in quite a while. I've been busy in evolution threads.

Not sure which group have their heads stuck deeper...
138 posted on 02/07/2005 8:10:24 PM PST by clyde asbury ("Think" is a verb.)
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To: robertpaulsen
Legalization sends a message to teens.

So does hypocrisy, my FRiend.

139 posted on 02/08/2005 6:40:53 AM PST by houeto ("President Bush, close our borders now!")
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To: robertpaulsen; eno_
Yet cannabis is de facto legal already in a lot of places, as long as one doesn't make a scene about it. At least here in California it takes a Herculean effort even to get handed a $100 fine for it.
140 posted on 02/08/2005 6:56:23 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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