Posted on 01/31/2005 11:36:58 AM PST by churchillbuff
Why are today's Republicans so hellbent on changing Social Security? ...[snip]Maybe it's because Social Security is an opportunity to refight—and perhaps win—a series of arguments the Republicans lost badly 70 years ago. To put it another way, it's a chance to knock down Franklin Roosevelt, finally. ...[snip]Dead going on 60 years, FDR still makes self-styled champions of American-style capitalism fulminate, much the same way their counterparts in the 1930s raged against "That Man." Why? The New Deal era reminds national greatness Republicans like Wehner of their party's futility in a time of true national greatness. I also suspect that many Republicans are simply unable to forgive Roosevelt for what may have been his greatest and longest-lasting achievement: saving American capitalism through regulation. And since they can't tear down the Triborough Bridge or the Hoover Dam, these guys act out by going after Social Security.
(Excerpt) Read more at slate.msn.com ...
This author to the contrary, FDR's mammoth spending and government power grabs didn't end the depression - - - they may have prolonged it.
He's right, though, that real conservatives don't like FDR. I learned about the scoundrel's assaults on freedom at the knees of my grandparents. Everyone in my family loathed him.
I was about to ask "where is the barf alert?" but then I saw the word "Bushies" in the title...honestly, are democrats really THAT unoriginal and stupid? Bushies? Please.
***To put it another way, it's a chance to knock down Franklin Roosevelt.***
Shouldn't be too hard. He didn't have a leg to stand on.
Too soon? =P
Or maybe we'd rather get a decent return for all those dollars, be able to leave it to our family not to be mention being certain that it'll be there.
You are nasty and vile. Too Soon?
I kid, that is hilarious!!
This is a moot point anyway, the systems FDR put in an instituted are nowhere near the hand out systems that exist today.... another liberal Lie.
Yes, lots of programs, but unless you were mentally or physically unable to work, you (largely) didn't get squat from the programs FDR instituted unless you worked.
Its been in the years since FDR that they were turned into handouts.. particularly by JFK and his Successors "war on poverty"
We conservatives don't like Franklin Roosevelt because we find his ideas repugnant. They were and are the antithesis of Liberty and have proved as much.
How about arguing the merits? Oh, that's right! It's hard to defend a Ponzi scheme.
"FDR's mammoth spending and government power grabs didn't end the depression - - - they may have prolonged it."
Indeed, FDR's economic policies were quite perverse and economists have typically found that the data, as opposed to the conventional liberal wisdom, is that FDR's policies prolongued and worsened the depression.
I answered that it was but don't look at me - that was FDR's baby. If that young man got it - I thought everyone did.
Guess I again underestimated the liberal ability to maintain rock solid denial.
The first 20 million or so got excellent returns. They put in practically nothing yet drew on the system for the rest of their lives.
Oh I get it.
1) Republicans want to reform So-So Security so that we can knock FDR down a peg.
2) GW went to war with Saddam to settle an old score for Bush senior.
3) Saddam would have turned over a new leaf if only we'd "let the inspectors do their work."
In other words, in order to be a happy liberal, all that's required is that you be willing to fill your head with pure, fresh-squeezed nonsense.
My parents and grandparents thought that FDR prolonged the depression. They hated FDR and that's saying something. My grandparents were life long southern democrats. That is till FDR they were. FDR was not as popular as the MSM wants people to think.
"...I learned about the scoundrel's assaults on freedom at the knees of my grandparents. Everyone in my family loathed him...."
I guess I am learning about the scoundrel's assaults on freedom at Ann Coulter's knee....mmmmmmm
In any event, check out "TREASON." warning, have antacids on hand.
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>>...Ann Coulter's knee...
Ahem... the rules! :)
Well .. I don't loathe him - because he was smart enough to hire a real military man to WIN the war - unlike the wimmpy dims of today. And .. his prayers for America were much more grandiose than those of George W. Bush.
However, what people seem to forget is that CONGRESS was totally controlled by the democrats. The repubs didn't have any say in anything, except for Civil Rights. It was the repubs who put that legislation into action - while it was people like Byrd (southern dems) who were against it.
True, but he got himself twisted around Joe Stalin's little finger and lost half of Europe to communism. It wasn't until Truman that Stalin's global ambitions were halted and until Reagan that they were destroyed.
Well .. according to Ann Coulter's book - Truman was also a communism coddler - and shuffled his Treasury Sec to some other position when it was learned the guy was a spy for the communists - which Truman refused to believe - but it was true.
I always thought Truman was a really good guy - for a democrat - but Ann's book changed my mind. While Truman did do some good things - he didn't root out the communists from his own govt. That was not a good move on his part.
Fair point. Truman's chief Bretton Woods negotiator, Harry Dexter White, was also a secret communist. I guess he only seems good compared to Roosevelt.
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