[narby]

IDers would be wise to present logical and rational evidence that all we se was created by a designer. Despite my readings I have yet to see any

This is exactly why ID is not "scientific". They have nothing, except to poke holes (most are invalid) in Evolution.

This is the same technique that french author used to "prove" that the US was responsible for 9/11. By poking "holes" in the known facts of what happened that day.

Such hole poking sells books, and sways minds. The french guy is a best seller, and ID has swayed lots of minds that don't have the imagination to believe that God was smart enough to have created Evolution.

[jwalsh07]

Narby, intelligent design is a fact of life. You guys are gonna have to accept that and modify your arguments. Allele frequencies are changed by bioengineers rather often these days.