1945 Battle of Manila (Anti-US Military BARRF Alert!)

INQ7 ^ | 1/31/05 | William Esposo

[Constantine XIII]

What kind of dumb@$$ comes up with stuff like this? O_o

[qam1]

Not the typical Xer Ping, Pinging it because this article does go into the generations and interestingly the Philippines also apparently have Baby Boomers, Xers & Ys (I guess there are aging anti-war hippies there too!)

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[Northern Yankee]

Obviously the idiots who write this have no idea how MacArthur loved the Phillipine people, and he was revered by them as well.

[Malleus Dei]

Yet another Leftist attempt to rewrite history.

[Harpo Speaks]

"Next to Warsaw, Manila registered as the city most devastated by World War II."


Ummm...I think the residents of Hiroshima and Nagasaki might disagree with you a bit, there.

[VeniVidiVici]

You're welcome!

[NorCalRepub]

and London and Dresdan

[ikka]

Moral equivalence, blechh.

[F16Fighter]

Staggering in its ignorance.

[swilhelm73]

Yeah, I'm sure the citizens of the Philipines were really pining to be left under the oh so pleasant rule of Imperial Japan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manila_Massacre

The Manila Massacre, February 1945, refers to the atrocities conducted against Filipino civilians in Manila, Philippines by retreating Japanese troops during World War II. Various credible Western and Eastern sources (http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/battles.htm#Manila) agree that the death toll was at least 100,000 people.

The Manila Massacre is only one of many major war crimes committed by the Imperialist Japanese from the annexation of Manchuria in 1931 to the end of World War II in 1945. It was a major event in the Asian Holocaust, where over 15 million Chinese, Korean, Filipino, Indonesian, Burmese, Indochinese civilians, Pacific Islanders and Allied POW were killed.

Wiki link I know...

Where do these leftist pin heads come from?

[Constantine XIII]

No joke. Not to mention the fact that the Phillipines are more pro-US than most US states. :P

[USNBandit]

Next to Warsaw, Manila registered as the city most devastated by World War II

The survivors from Nanking, Stalingrad, and Leningrad would like a word with the author. Wait there's the phone again.....yes, we have Korea on the line....and Ethiopians gassed by the Italians.....Singapore.....

This author is an idiot.

[austinmark]

..Many Filipinos who suffered personal losses from Japanese atrocities during the 1945 Battle of Manila have long forgiven the Japanese for the anguish that they inflicted.

Oh, just like the Chinese in Shanghai? or the Okinawan's ? How about singapore? ALL were brutal atrocities, over 500,000 murderd at these sites alone.

NO, they have not forgiven or forgotten !

[USNBandit]

I am just sticking to the good guys. On the Axis side you have Hiroshima and Nagasaki (too obvious), Tokyo and Dresden (firebombing), Berlin, Hamburg, Yokohama, Kawasaki, etc.

[qam1]

Side note, See the other articles on the page,

* How the Philippines fails to sell itself abroad
* Dancing with disasters
* Bow in shame
* Why we have been marked out for elimination
* Men spawn more grievous spells of suffering

Geez, I thought our Newspapers were depressing

[Veto!]

I visited the Philippines in '76 and '77. The people loved Americans then because we drove out the evil Japanese. They all had family stories of Japanese atrocities like tossing babies into the air and bayoneting them. Even thirty years after the war, whenever Japanese tourists arrived in the Philippines, people turned away in disgust.

I visited the big American cemetery in Manila, and could not bear to go in, as American families were arriving to see their loved ones' graves, all crying at their loss right in the parking lot. I've never seen anything so sad.

If people in the Philippines no longer love us, it's because of leftist liars like this idiot writer.

[dangus]

Blaming the U.S.' "failure" to send more ground troops into Mailla on Gen. MacArthur is what to me proves the leftist perspective of the author.

Gen. MacArthur loved the Philippines. He was denied the proper resources to defend them from Japanese invasion by Washington, specifically ulber partisan Democrat Roosevelt, who feared a presidential challenge from MacArthur, and Roosevelt's handpicked successor, "Republican" Gen. Eisenhower. Even a PBS bio about MacArthur saw blatant politics in that move.

When MacArthur came to liberate the Philippines, he had substantial Naval and Marine resources, but few Army soldiers. Not knowing at the time whether a land invasion of Japan would be necessary, it's absurd to suggest that MacArthur should have expended his armies when aerial bombardment would suffice militarily. Yet the horrific arocities make quite plain that eliminating the Japanese presence was absolutely necessary. Allowing 30,000 to die while saving hundreds of thousands AND defeating the enemy who is committing such atrocities is the only sensible option. Be rest assured that MacArthur was anguished by any civilian casualty, whether inflicted by freindly fire, or Japanese savagery.

The Manillans there loved MacArthur, and this bonehead is angry that they did. But they were there, and they understood what was happening.

[NRA2BFree]

Ping!

[facedown]

This guy, and the candidates he espouses, e.g. Raul Roco, are stealth Marxists.