Immigration Reform - So Few Words, So Much Meaning

My Own Thoughts | 02/02/2005 | doughtyone

[Mind-numbed Robot]

How would YOU seal the borders?

[primeval patriot]

Good stuff Doughty.

[lawdog]

This is the weak link of the Republican party...why I gave Bush a 99 instead of a 100 for his SOU speech. Tancredo alone can't carry the water and the beltway crowd ignores this realty at their own peril...even Rushbo has realized it's a major problem.

[bayourod]

"Why should non-citizens get free health care while we have to pay through the ying-yang to get it?"

Federal law only requires that emergency rooms that participate in Medicare have to "stabilize" anyone brought in regardless of ability to pay. After that, it is state laws, city/county laws, hospital district rules, hospital policies, etc... that mandate further treatment.

It's not Bush's fault.

This is just one example of many problems that people blame on Bush instead of their local politicians who should have solved it.

[DoughtyOne]

That is not true. Once a patient has presented at an emergency room, they cannot be refused service. Further, that service will include being treated until they are stabalized, and if in need of surgery or other lifesaving measures, it WILL be provided.

Any hospital that refuses WILL lose their ability to recieve payment for government services.

Please tell us the name of one hospital in the United States that doesn't receive Medicare funding.

Who are the ill for the most part? It's the elderly. Yeah, lots of hospitals refuse service to the majority of their demographic group.

[k2blader]

Excellent post.

I missed the "immigration" part of the speech, which is a good thing because had I heard it, I could not have stomached the rest.

President Bush is very determined on this issue and will not give it up, nor will he stop insulting our intelligence. Conservatives will have to keep the pressure on Congress to fight it.

I honestly don't believe the GOP as a whole would be stupid enough to support his proposal. But if they do, they'll lose in more ways than one.

[bayourod]

It's impossible to seal the borders. Look at the failure of the 66 mile Tijuana sector with double fences, flood lights, patrol roads, UAVs, helicopters, dogs, ATVs, etc...

The beauty of the guest worker program is that it's self-enforcing.

Illegal immigrants will want to become legal guest workers and employers will want their employees to become legal guest workers.

If guest worker status is available, there is no incentive for anyone to be an illegal border jumper or any employer to hire an illegal.

Everyone wins (except the racists and Bush-haters)

[The Spirit Of Allegiance]

Very thought-provoking. Would that there were a simple answer to this. Jesus said "The Poor You Will Always Have With You" and ain't that the truth....

Exporting Capitalism and Freedom south and not just to the Mideast seems like a good idea....

[DoughtyOne]

The beauty of the guestworker program is that it will dump one to two million more each year into this nation on top of the illegal immigration already taking place. You think two million worker permits per year will stop it, but four, six, ten million want to come. Then there's those who already have a record up here. They'll just bop up here anyway.

Unless we close the border there will be no sanity to any program.

Then there's the problem of proven racism. Worker permits can't just be given to Mexicans. We have to provide equal access to every nation of the world, per capita, or we've set up a preferential situation. That is racist.

If two million Mexicans can come across in addition to normal immigration, then Panama should be able to send up an equal percentage of their populace. China, Vietnam, Russia, England, India, Malaysia, Palestine... you name it, it's a free-for-all for everyone. Otherwise, the people who support the program are by definition racists.

I note you support it.

[Penner]

Where the President and I part ways, is when he implies that our economy can't meet it's needs without poor, uneducated, unable to be financialy responsible for themselves, men and women from foreign countries.

Agree 100%.

[DoughtyOne]

I agree with that, but first I'd kick old Jorge Fox in the arse on his next visit up here, and tell him to get his house in order. I'd give him six months before I'd start a program to offer the Mexican public a way to overthrow the assholes who run that nation now.

We could then help them open up the economy and move into the current century.

[FITZ]

I notice one thing --- you seem extremely pro-Mexican government --- anything they tell us must be done? How about them fixing up a problem or two?

[DoughtyOne]

Thank you.

[DoughtyOne]

Thank you.

[FITZ]

A country like Mexico which can produce as many billionaires as Great Britain should be required to pay for the free education and health care it's citizens are taking here. American taxpayers should not be paid --- and it's incredibly irresponsible that our leaders are allowing this situation to go on ---- why isn't Mexico being sent a bill?

[John Locke]

How would YOU seal the borders?

Look at this map:

In the middle, a rich country of less than 4 million. Up top, a poorer country of 25 million. At bottom, a dirt poor country of 200 million. How could those borders be kept secure? All you need is a rowboat.

Now read the story of one public servant who helps do just that:

A Day in the Life of a Public Officer

I draw your attention to this sentence:

"We do our very best to secure a conviction for every case that we deal with."

They mean it. It works. It can be done. All you need is the will and the courage.

[Razz Barry]

My I fax this to Tom Tancredo and ask that he give this to the president? I'd send it to The White House but it would go into the round file. I'd like to make copies for friends to mail to him also. We would note on it that we are not the author, but it mirrors our view.

[1_Inch_Group]

It's impossible to seal the borders

Anything is possible in my America.

[1_Inch_Group]

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