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To: DoughtyOne
"Minimum wage jobs were supposed to be entry level, not for adults."

I don't know where you got that. The arguments behind them were how much it cost to support a family. (not necessarily have two cars, a TV, air conditioner, computer, private schools, vacations, their own house,..) But regardless, any adult who can't keep a job paying more than $6.50 must be doing an entry level job? A person shouldn't expect to work as a grocery store checher for his entire life and be able to afford to buy a mansion in a gated community and drive Corvettes.

"If we want more workers, then we can come up with policies that encourages our own citizens to have more children. "

How does that help you? Same number of school children, same number of laborers "driving down wages", going to hospitals... The only difference I can see is that one baby may be named John and the other Juan.

" it's okay if we mastermind slums in vast regions of our nation"

That's a California problem because of your high real estate costs. Other states subsidize clean modest housing and enforce sanitation laws and criminal laws. Don't blame Bush for California's mismanagement.

"You can't advocate two million poor come here from every nation. That would bring about 300 million per year here."

Under a guest worker plan American employers bring in only the number that they need.

By the way. Since state and local law enforcement agencies can enforce immigration laws, and the CBP will train them for free, why do you ONLY blame President Bush for your problems? Why don't you blame your local mayor for not busting employers of illegals?

People who want to blame Bush for all of their local problems instead of the local politicians who could solve them, are just looking for reasons to blame Bush.

42 posted on 02/03/2005 12:58:42 AM PST by bayourod (Unless we get over 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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To: bayourod

Bayourod, your posts are some of the few I see on the forum, that go from one falsehood or flawed premise to another to another.

That first paragraph was so powerful, I'll just refrain from responding. It would be pointless. It didn't even make sense.

Your question about more children is likewise another waste of time. If you don't know the difference, then you're not qualified to participate in this discussion.

Then you're off to California and saying that it's isn't Bush's fault. Boy if that isn't your mantra. It isn't Bush's fault, and by God it sure as hell isn't tens of millions of illegal allien's fault either. Whose fault is it? Well it must be California's. California now sets national guidelines on immigration, healthcare mandates, education guidelines, and oh yess, that $3 billion dollar gene research program caused it all. LOL.

Let me see, you think ten thousand illegals making minimum wage would be an economic boon for any neighborhood. Okay, we've got that on the record. Only California's high realestate makes it impossible for illegals to house, feed, clothe, provide medical care and educate their children. Hmmm, shere genious.

"Other states subsidize..." Need I respond to this mindset.

Well because the United States Constitution says the President 'SHALL' protect the states from invasion. That's the main reason why I say that you don't respect the U.S. Constitution and the laws of our nation.

Oh now I get it. You think all local politicians are president. Oh okay. Thanks.


46 posted on 02/03/2005 1:22:44 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: bayourod

"People who want to blame Bush for all of their local problems instead of the local politicians who could solve them, are just looking for reasons to blame Bush."


Well, he HAS sworn an oath to protect our borders from foreign invaders.

Have you conveniently forgotten this?


172 posted on 02/04/2005 5:45:32 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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