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To: Publius
Great essay and follow up posts. I was especially interested in #58.

Tormenting spokespeople of the other side is the part of political guerilla warfare that happens just before one side takes up arms and drives the conflict to the next level. We have to go back to the period just before the Civil War to see that behavior in our history.

The more radical elements of the Democratic Party, i.e. the "Deaniacs", are pushing events to the edge of violence. What they've forgotten is that it's their adversaries who have all the guns.

And the Deaniacs are going to be the face of the party. I keep asking the question, "If they are certain to lose a countrywide violent confrontation, why do they keep pushing it? What are they counting on?"

My own opinion is that they're expecting outside help. Progressive has always been the code word for Communist and Communism is a religion in that its followers never lose the faith no matter how often and how many places it's proved a failure and an atrocity. It is the cause in their lives that is bigger than themselves.

Most of us thought that Reagan had broken Communism when the wall came down, but religions don't evaporate because they've been rejected by the majority--sometimes they redouble their efforts and the intensity of their fanaticism. The Islamists are just one example.

Communism is still alive and growing again in South and Central America, Russia under Putin, China (hardliners are ascendent), and in a weaker form in Europe, etc. Our "Progressives" can reasonably expect foreign allies if it comes to that.

Our domestic Progressives are now faced with their own local version of the wall coming down and they don't seem able to fight in any way other than verbal violence that is more and more becoming physical as you have shown.

I agree that Hillary intends to win their power back through deceit, but the bottom line is always violent thuggery in the background. If the deceit fails, and I think it will, I think they will resort to civil war which they cannot win unless they have foreign help...

112 posted on 02/04/2005 9:28:38 AM PST by Sal
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To: Sal
There was another thread on this topic some time ago where I weighed in with a worst case scenario:

The so-called "blue states" secede, announcing that they are entering Canada as new provinces. Both the UN and the EU grant diplomatic recognition to this new Canadian federation, arguing that the US has become such a threat to world peace that its breakup is the only thing that can save the planet. The EU and UN move French, German and other foreign troops to the new Canadian provinces to prevent any move to recover them for the US.

But most "blue states" are really heavily-populated blue counties surrounded by red counties, and the inhabitants of the red counties will take umbrage at this decision by the cities to secede in their name. Unlike the last American civil war which was fought in the south, this one will be fought in the north with patriots being forced to take on foreign troops along with their liberal collaborators.

I got a laugh at a recent FReeper Meet when I imitated the voices of the two sides when they meet at a roadblock.

RED: Freeze! Keep your hands up! Is the Constitution a rock or a tree?

BLUE: A tree!

(sound of machine gun going off)

While I got a laugh at the FReeper Meet, no one reacted to my entry on that particular thread, except for one FReeper who said he had imagined the same thing, and it was his worst nightmare.

Food for thought -- but I don't want to turn this into a secession thread.

114 posted on 02/04/2005 9:44:05 AM PST by Publius (The people of a democracy choose the government they want, and they ought to get it good and hard.)
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To: Sal
Most of us thought that Reagan had broken Communism when the wall came down,...

I disagree with this statement. True, many thought Communism was dead with the fall of the Berlin wall, and even moreso after the collapse of the USSR.

However, at that time the Democrats and MSM began substituting "liberal" for "Communism," just as today "Progressive," a catch word for "Communism," is replacing "liberal."

Even many on the left realize that to call a "liberal" or "progressive" by its true name, "Communism," would destroy the basic fabric of the (now) Democrat Party.

132 posted on 02/06/2005 3:41:57 AM PST by Budge (<>< Sit Nomen Domini benedictum. <><)
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