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To: Publius
This is a great essay and I agree with most of your points here, but I think we need to be really careful in writing out the death certificate of the Democratic party prematurely.

It's a foregone conclusion at this point in time that the Democrats have no chance of winning at the national level campaigning on their true agenda; America is a slightly right-of-center country and has been for quite some time. However, the Clintons are proving themselves to be far smarter than I had given them credit for before. They fully understand that if they're to succeed they need to lie their way into power, and that campaign is already beginning in earnest. And they don't need to fool the entire country, they only need to fool a relatively small percentage of the people in order to pull it off.

In the end I don't think she'll be able to pull it off, but it's entirely within the realm of possibility that she could, and there are a lot of things that could still go wrong for us if we're not careful. It would be a big mistake for us to begin underestimating our opponents, because not all of them are as buffoonish as Ted Kennedy and Barbara Boxer.

21 posted on 02/03/2005 9:47:34 AM PST by jpl (Islam is a religion of peace, as in "Rest in Peace".)
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To: jpl

Hillary is running to recreate the Perot movement. And it is still out there waiting for a leader.

Clinton sold them out over NAFTA and Kerry had the economic nationalism of someone with a rich European wife and 7 mansions. They are waiting to be led.


23 posted on 02/03/2005 9:49:21 AM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: jpl
However, the Clintons are proving themselves to be far smarter than I had given them credit for before. They fully understand that if they're to succeed they need to lie their way into power, and that campaign is already beginning in earnest. And they don't need to fool the entire country, they only need to fool a relatively small percentage of the people in order to pull it off.

Concur. But She lacks the political instincts to pull it off, possessing a tin ear for opinions not shared by Herself. She has no patience with people less brilliant than Herself.

This is why there has been discussion in Congress about a constitutional amendment that would open the way for Arnold to run for president -- but would also repeal the 22nd Amendment and give Bill another shot at the top. Congressional Democrats don't share Her exalted opinion of Herself and think Bill has a better chance of regaining power for the party.

The key to why a splintering is so likely is that the Deaniacs are so far out of the mainstream that they will drive moderates away in droves. Zell Miller merely said he was still a Democrat, but one who was supporting Bush. The next defectors will not make that distinction.

31 posted on 02/03/2005 10:02:00 AM PST by Publius (The people of a democracy choose the government they want, and they ought to get it good and hard.)
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