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1 posted on 02/03/2005 10:53:51 AM PST by RockinRight
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You can be born out of the US, if your parents are citizens. I assume his parents were US Citizens, that would make him one, regardless of where he was born.


2 posted on 02/03/2005 10:55:15 AM PST by TheOtherOne
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If he was born in the Canal Zone, I believe that was soveriegn US soil until recently...


3 posted on 02/03/2005 10:56:01 AM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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no it would not disqualify him, he's the son of a Navy admiral born in the Panama Canal Zone, there's a rule that foreignborn kids of military personnel are counted as US born.


4 posted on 02/03/2005 10:56:56 AM PST by William of Orange (I'm a DU troll pretending to be a FReeper, how am I doing?)
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Nope, if I recall correctly he was born on U.S. soil in Panama making him a natural born citizen both by parentage and location.


5 posted on 02/03/2005 10:57:50 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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I was born in Spain but am an American citizen. My father, an Air Force Vet, was stationed in Seville Spain when I was born. I was born on a military base there.

My brother was born in Germany. He too is a citizen.

I know McCain is from a military family also. Might he have been born on a US base?


6 posted on 02/03/2005 10:58:19 AM PST by Republican Red (DU: ''Reality sucks. That's the problem. We want another reality.'')
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Was his father in the Military or Political Service of the United States of America at the time John was born? I am sure his parents were (are in the case of his mother) US citizens.


7 posted on 02/03/2005 10:58:48 AM PST by msnimje
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Egads! Hope he runs on the demoncRAT ticket.


8 posted on 02/03/2005 10:58:54 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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It's not that you have to be born in the US, it's that you have to be born a U.S. Citizen. Children born to US parents overseas (even not on military bases) are "natural born" US citizens.


11 posted on 02/03/2005 11:00:16 AM PST by Dyvim
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Why should it disqualify him? Should parents serving overseas in the military forfeit the possibility of their children becoming president?


15 posted on 02/03/2005 11:00:37 AM PST by jude24 ("To go against conscience is neither right nor safe." - Martin Luther)
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Wouldn't that make him unqualified due to not being a native-born citizen?

No [see prior posts]. What disqualifies McCain is that he is a RINO and a moron.

16 posted on 02/03/2005 11:00:39 AM PST by elbucko (Feral Republican)
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I don't care where the .... McPain was born he ain't gonna be our next President no matter what!
20 posted on 02/03/2005 11:01:39 AM PST by keysguy (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU)
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Children of U.S. citizens born overseas get a birth certificate from the Department of State. They are Americans. I have been through this process.


22 posted on 02/03/2005 11:03:31 AM PST by Radix (Oh look, Mrs McNabb, Mrs McNabb! The Patriots are coming to the Super Bowl.)
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If you are born in a foreign country and your parents are US citizens, you have dual citizenship until you reach the age of majority. At that time you need to decide which country you desire to be a citizen of. I'm not sure if the rule applies if you are born on a US military base. If McCain was born in the Canal Zone, I believe that the rule would not apply, as it was American territory until recently.

At least this how I understood the rules worked back in my teens. I had several friends who were born overseas to US servicemen. The rules may have changed since then.


24 posted on 02/03/2005 11:04:59 AM PST by gracie1 (Visualize whirled peas!)
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McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone, and both his parents were U.S. citizens, so he is a U.S. citizen from birth, and thus a natural-born citizen for purposes of the Constitution.


31 posted on 02/03/2005 11:13:37 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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It is much easier to disqualify Sen Loon because he was not "born" at all, as is required, but rather "hatched."


36 posted on 02/03/2005 11:16:02 AM PST by MeanWestTexan
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BTTT


39 posted on 02/03/2005 11:18:57 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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I dunno, I heard that maybe he was born in Ireland. Owl, doesn't this disqualify him for other privilidges as well?


40 posted on 02/03/2005 11:19:38 AM PST by Sam's Army (No witty taglines currently come to mind)
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"Natural born U.S. citizen" does not mean only those born in the United States. One could be born on the Space Shuttle of U.S. citizen parents and still be qualified to serve as president.


45 posted on 02/03/2005 11:33:43 AM PST by HenryLeeII (Democrats have helped kill more Americans than the Soviets and Nazis combined!)
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It can get complicated, but if the parents are citizens, their children are automatically citizens, no matter where they are born.


50 posted on 02/03/2005 11:50:52 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (It is no bad thing to celebrate a simple life!)
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The phrase in the Constitution is "natural born" and it has never been definitively construed. An expansive interpretation would almost certainly be adhered to these days. McCain would thus be eligible since his citizenship rests on both parentage and on birth in the Panama Canal Zone, which was sovereign US territory when he was born there.
53 posted on 02/03/2005 12:01:25 PM PST by Rockingham
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